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Lisa Tank Problem
rayarachelian:
Just posted a small summary of parts of "The Steve I knew" - John Couch said it was closer to 100K units, but so far we don't see any above 13K AppleNet wise. Hmmm.
https://lisalist2.com/index.php/topic,203.msg1553.html#msg1553
nick:
Ray, does this Lisa have the same AppleNet No as one of your Lisa's? If so this would indicate that the Applenet No is perhaps not unique?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RI4AAOSwgZdg2hZX/s-l1600.jpg
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304059895907
SN: A3245610, AppleNet: 00104218, MFG: 3245 - this was also a recent buy off ebay, severely damaged due to battery leak, had a 30MB SunRem hard drive.
blusnowkitty:
--- Quote from: rayarachelian on July 17, 2021, 09:09:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: nick on July 17, 2021, 08:05:22 pm ---Ray, does this Lisa have the same AppleNet No as one of your Lisa's? If so this would indicate that the Applenet No is perhaps not unique?
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RI4AAOSwgZdg2hZX/s-l1600.jpg
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/304059895907
SN: A3245610, AppleNet: 00104218, MFG: 3245 - this was also a recent buy off ebay, severely damaged due to battery leak, had a 30MB SunRem hard drive.
--- End quote ---
I don't think that AppleNet matches any of mine, just did a search of that google sheet and it's not in there. I added all of mine there (except for the spare CPU boards)
It is possible that there were duplicates, but I'm not aware of any. I'd imagine that duplicates would be bad for networking in a hypothetical large corporation purchase, but yeah, even ethernet Mac addresses were known to be faked and duplicated when certain brands didn't want to pay the IEEE or whatever.
--- End quote ---
Nah, as far as the AppleNets go it does match to what you put in as Machine A3245610... so this is curious, do we have a genuine from-the-factory Applenet conflict?
rayarachelian:
Interesting. I think I see why I didn't find it, I hit control-f but probably had javascript off for one of the google domains, so FireFox's find didn't find that AN#, however, when I turned it on and do a find from the find field inside of the spreadsheet it does find it. That is very weird. I'll have to go through my Lisas again to confirm it wasn't a typo on my part.
rayarachelian:
Ok, so it's confirmed, there's at least one duplicate AppleNet, this one is a 2/10 that had MacWorks with Minifinder on the widget that I got off ebay ~August 2018. The previous owner got it from an estate sale; it had files indicating a family on Long Island owned it in the mid-late 1980s - this is the one that had that copy of Lotus Jazz on it.
But if there really are 10x more Lisas than the 13K, there should be a lot more duplicate AppleNets, and we don't see that. However, since there is one black swan, there could be more. The big issue then is how many?
So the serial numbers aren't sequential but likely unique and the AppleNets are supposedly sequential, but now we find they're not unique. Ow!
WTF was apple (not) thinking!
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