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anotherLISAguy

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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2024, 06:34:18 am »

Interesting to know...

Is Christie's like eBay where you only pay some amount over the runner-up's top bid, or is it just an ordinary auction where you pay the price you bid?

The buyer pays the price bid PLUS an additional premium above the bid - in the US it is a heavy 27% for this sale.
"27% of the hammer price of amounts in excess of $50,000 up to and including $1,000,000;"

https://www.bonhams.com/how-to-buy/buyers-premium-united-states/

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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2024, 04:05:27 pm »

Interesting to know...

Is Christie's like eBay where you only pay some amount over the runner-up's top bid, or is it just an ordinary auction where you pay the price you bid?

Yes, it is like eBay, at least for online auctions:

"A max bid sets the highest bid you are willing to place on a lot and continues to bid on your behalf until that bid is exceeded. If two or more bidders leave identical bids, the first bid received takes precedence. You can change your maximum bid amount if the current bid is lower than your maximum bid."
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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2025, 09:49:30 pm »

I reached out and asked. The seller is considering using an auction house (RR Auction, etc.) rather than eBay.

This one did indeed go to RR Auction. Here's the live listing:
https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/349773707146055-apple-lisa-computer-with-twiggy-drives-profile-hard-drive-mouse-and-keyboard/?cat=0
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anotherLISAguy

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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2025, 01:50:57 pm »

So basically, they are selling an LISA 1 chassis with a (authentic?) front bezel and no twiggy drives.
Keyboard, square mouse, and a 5mb Profile
My option is the estimate seems high but then again given the final price of the OP, anything could happen.
Worth a watch if you are keen to see how LISAs are being valued

NOTE: As pointed out, I was mistaken. I had overlooked the least amount of text an auction house could give to one of the most critical parts of a LISA 1.
That said, given the drives' unknown status and the obvious lack of images, once again, I can't imagine it being a positive sign.

I apologize if I appear overly critical to this type of presentation. 
The concern lies in the aftertaste of auctions lacking details.

Regardless, I hope any bidders on this board will share further information gleaned in the 'condition report' post-gavel.

« Last Edit: March 14, 2025, 03:39:26 am by anotherLISAguy »
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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2025, 10:37:11 pm »

So basically, they are selling an LISA 1 chassis with a (authentic?) front bezel and no twiggy drives...

It (the one at RR Auction) has its Twiggy drives. That's an original Lisa 1. Not currently in working condition, but certainly a good foundation to repair and have fully functional again.
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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2025, 11:29:02 pm »

I reached out and asked. The seller is considering using an auction house (RR Auction, etc.) rather than eBay.

This one did indeed go to RR Auction. Here's the live listing:
https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/349773707146055-apple-lisa-computer-with-twiggy-drives-profile-hard-drive-mouse-and-keyboard/?cat=0

Went for $45,454 plus the buyer's premium, so approximately $56,817 out the door. RR Auction will probably take 15-20% of that sum from the seller in fees, netting the seller $42 to $44K. With the original eBay ask of $52K, minus $2K in eBay fees, the net proceeds from eBay would have been about $50K.

Unless RR Auction cut the seller a deal on fees, he or she would have done much better with an eBay sale.

In any case, if that machine was fully working it probably would have sold for closer to double the price. I am surprised they didn't make a more earnest repair attempt in preparation for the sale.
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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #21 on: March 21, 2025, 04:04:58 pm »

I agree - there has to be a reason for RR not even trying to upsell the internals with proper images.
As I said, my frustration stems from the notion that as their value appreciates, there will be more slap-together LISA auctions.
If auction houses don't do a better job of qualifying their offerings, some genuine junk will be offered.
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Re: Lisa 1 Sells for $882K
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2025, 11:33:35 pm »

RR's next Lisa 1 auction has gone live, and will end next month: https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/350473807246026-apple-lisa-computer-with-twiggy-drives-profile-hard-drive-mouse-keyboard-and-software/?cat=0

Drives reportedly work. Seems to come with a full complement of Twiggy disks and manuals, including LisaTerminal. Should fetch a good price.

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