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reddit: pre-alpha draft of Lisa Owner's Guide + draft Pascal Language Spec Found
« on: January 03, 2022, 11:56:41 am »
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Discussion:  https://www.reddit.com/r/VintageApple/comments/rutwfj/lisa_manual_first_draft/
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Re: reddit: pre-alpha draft of Lisa Owner's Guide + draft Pascal Language Spec Found
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2022, 05:13:27 pm »
We should save a copy here just in case.
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Re: reddit: pre-alpha draft of Lisa Owner's Guide + draft Pascal Language Spec Found
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2022, 07:58:38 pm »
Appreciate the save, wanting to get the whole thing scanned in. Not sure if the owner is looking to sell it rather than scan it in based on the latest comments. Long as these docs get scanned in and make their way here to to bitsavers, all is good. Let's see what happens.
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Re: reddit: pre-alpha draft of Lisa Owner's Guide + draft Pascal Language Spec Found
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2022, 09:18:29 am »
Looks like this is being listed on ebay for $10k, but make an offer is available: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185363644419

Hopefully one of our numerous billionaire members can snatch this up, scan it, and send it to bitsavers. (sarcasm).
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Re: reddit: pre-alpha draft of Lisa Owner's Guide + draft Pascal Language Spec Found
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2022, 08:51:26 am »
Looks like this manual is on ePay again, this time for a more "reasonable" 1200.

This page was very interesting... I didn't know the 2 UNIX variants were in the pipeline that early!

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Re: reddit: pre-alpha draft of Lisa Owner's Guide + draft Pascal Language Spec Found
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2022, 03:44:57 pm »
Quote from: compu_85 on June 28, 2022, 08:51:26 am
Looks like this manual is on ePay again, this time for a more "reasonable" 1200.

This page was very interesting... I didn't know the 2 UNIX variants were in the pipeline that early!

I think I saw that page elsewhere, note that CP/M is in outline for some reason, I think it means "vaporware". But yes, this speaks to, once you write the drivers, you can port unix to anything. From what I've seen, neither uniplus, nor xenix understand how to get the size info of a profile hard drive, so they make stupid size assumptions, I think this may be because apple didn't share info about block 0x0ffffff with these vendors, it doesn't make sense that two different unix vendors didn't know about this, but for other types of hard drives that also speak the profile protocol, they did. I think they only shared the number of blocks for 5M vs 10M profiles.

also for unix of this age, it seems the hard drive partition tables were hardcoded in the kernel for some reason - this would be outside of what apple shared/didn't.

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