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D.Finni:

--- Quote from: Lisa2 on February 20, 2025, 05:23:05 pm ---I have never seen a version of NCSA Telnet that had a PPP or SLIP implementation built in.  Every version I ever came in contact with used MacTCP.
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Yes, there was an earlier NCSA version that pre-dated MacTCP. I think it used an AppleTalk to IP bridge or gateway.


--- Quote ---DogCow, what ever happened to the internet tools you were developing for early Macintoshes that we were testing for Lisa compatibility?   Do you have this special version of NCSA Telnet in your download vault on the MacGui site?

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That project stalled for lack of available time to work on it. It's not dead, and I do want to complete it, I just don't know when. We spent a lot of time on that, and I hope to pick it back up some time.

I'm not sure if I have that special NCSA Telnet application in the Vault. I remember looking for it a few years back, but I don't recall if I found it or not.

sigma7:

--- Quote from: jamesdenton on February 20, 2025, 09:18:18 am ---there was a version that had a short-lived PPP or SLIP implementation

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This NCSA Telnet for the Macintosh User’s Guide Version 2.6 says:


--- Quote ---These other Version 2.5 features are no longer available in Version 2.6:
• • •
Serial Connections
SLIP Connections via built-in drivers
NCSA TCP/IP drivers
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So finding source/binary for an earlier version might be worth a moment...

#5 of this purports to have 2.3 and 2.4:

https://www.macintoshrepository.org/83-ncsa-telnet-2-x

jamesdenton:
I've got a copy attached. Just opened it up and SLIP is there (under new connections). I haven't tried it in a long time and have forgotten the process.

@DFinni - Would be great if you're able to host it on MacGUI

D.Finni:
Thanks for providing that version of NCSA Telnet with combined TCP/IP drivers. That's just what we were looking for.


--- Quote ---IMPORTANT  NOTES- June 1992                       NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5

There are some substantial changes with this release of Telnet.  While all of these changes are described fully in the documentation, they are worthy of another mention here.  If you do not already have the Telnet 2.5 documentation, please get it from
anonymous ftp from: ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu


NCSA/MacTCP drivers
NCSA Telnet previously came in two versions: NCSA driver version, and MacTCP driver version. However, in this release of Telnet, the two versions have been merged into one application. This allows greater flexibility, along with removing the need to have two different applications for basically the same program. You may select the NCSA drivers, by appropriately setting the hardware= line in config.tel to ether, or atalk.

To select the MacTCP drivers, you may  set hardware=mactcp in the config.tel file. Also, since Telnet defaults to MacTCP, if there is no hardware=mactcp line, Telnet will still assume that MacTCP is to be used.


Serial Connections
Telnet now has the ability to connect through the serial port, and can also optionally use SLIP. For more information about this, please see the documentation.

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