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bmwcyclist

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Boot Select from the Selector?
« on: Today at 10:27:31 am »

Is there a way to boot from a floppy or other device when using the selector?

I am using the Selector on an internal ESProfile and I don't get an option to boot off of my FloppyEMU when I have a disk mounted and or the Apple key on startup diag. It just goes right into Selector.

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Re: Boot Select from the Selector?
« Reply #1 on: Today at 11:28:44 am »

Try hitting the spacebar a couple times after you hear the first click in the self-test. Once the test finishes, it should go to the Startup From... menu instead of booting straight off the ProFile. And then you should be able to startup from floppy with no issue.
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Re: Boot Select from the Selector?
« Reply #2 on: Today at 12:30:47 pm »

Thanks!

On a side question, Is there any trick to getting Lisa Guide to work? I have download Lisa Guide v2 and v3 floppies from Mac Repository and can't get either of them to boot. When I mount the floppy in LOS it tells me to boot off of it.

I know I ran it once before.

Is there a .profile image version?
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Re: Boot Select from the Selector?
« Reply #3 on: Today at 02:16:50 pm »

@AlexTheCat123's advice is what to do, of course, but it got me thinking...

The Selector can't initiate a boot from a floppy drive, but it does (allegedly) support a variety of other booting strategies through its obscure, rudimentary, and only partially-tested scripting facility. This includes booting from one parallel port and then continuing to boot from an ESProFile or a Cameo/Aphid device hooked up to another parallel port. It doesn't support booting from a different kind of parallel drive on a different port. That said, this is such an obscure capability that I'm not sure it's ever been done under any circumstances anyway.

It would not be too difficult to add floppy booting to the Selector's repertoire of scripting commands: conceivably, you could boot into the Selector, have it automatically set up some hard drive images on several of the parallel ports, and then boot from a floppy. I'd be interested to hear about circumstances where this functionality would be valuable.
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Re: Boot Select from the Selector?
« Reply #4 on: Today at 02:21:50 pm »

And while we're talking about obscure, not-really-tested Selector features: https://codeberg.org/stepleton/cameo/src/branch/master/aphid/selector/selector.x68#L178
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Re: Boot Select from the Selector?
« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:35:17 pm »

I'd be interested to hear about circumstances where this functionality would be valuable.

Here are my circumstances.

This weekend I am hosting the Retro Computer Village at the Queen City Con (Cincinnati's largest IT/Security event), (specifically the Vintage Hacking Village inside the RCV).

I will be doing 3 Lisa demos per day for a scheduled audience and ad-hoc demos all weekend.

Being able to show off as well as have people use the Lisa Guide would be invaluable, as well as a tour of the full LOS 3.1.

Currently, the only way I know of to run the Lisa Guide is by booting from a floppy. However, that is not working for me right now either. I have downloaded the images twice, and they seem ok, but after a quick read, they dismount on boot. They will open in LOS, but it tells me to boot from the floppy. I did a check in BLU and it seems to read all of the (virtual) sectors. I even tried a LOS disk repair just for the heck of it.

LOS install boots from my FloppyEMU just fine.

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