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Started by berskyboy, August 22, 2026, 11:21:06 AM

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berskyboy

Quote from: sigma7 on Today at 04:49:48 PMI'll work on some measurement instructions to look for further failures on the daughterboard. In the meantime:

Use the image below to diligently check for any remaining solder bridges. If any remain, then Q1 and Q2 may be destroyed again after replacement, and further parts may be damaged too. Shiny solder joints hide subtle details, so after fully checking it once, it can be helpful to rotate the board and check again from a different angle.

If you find any bridges, take a picture/make a note of where they are as that information can help locate and/or eliminate additional components to suspect.


Here's a photo of the board and maybe some solder bridges?  I thought the dot close together would be the same join?

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hw98nypaj0xsqwhhfgoer/Soldure.Bridges.heic?rlkey=sa3nlcvognw0gys8tra246itb&st=dzc64371&dl=0

sigma7

Remove the daughterboard and check it while disconnected from the main board:

With the black lead on pin 5 of the daughterboard's connector, put the red lead on each of the other connector pins and measure with diode test mode, and again with resistance mode.

Black to Pin 5, Red to Pin x
Pin x     DiodeTest     Resistance     Signal
1inf6k+12 sense
2inf10kline sense
31.1>5k+18V
4inf50kon/off
---ground
6inf2.6k+5 sense
7inf2.5kcurrent sense
8inf>100k/shutdown
9infinf/power fail
10infinfpull
11infinfpush
121.1>1klogic +5
13infinf/delay reset
Warning: Memory errors found. ECC non-functional. Verify comments if accuracy is important to you.

sigma7

Quote from: berskyboy on Today at 06:41:13 PMHere's a photo of the board and maybe some solder bridges?  I thought the dot close together would be the same join?

The red arrows don't point to solder bridges as far as I can tell.

Referring to the black and white diagram, there should not be any solder that bridges across a white gap from one black section to a different black section. It can be very difficult to see a bridge in a photo, so you should look at the narrow white sections and carefully compare to your board.
Warning: Memory errors found. ECC non-functional. Verify comments if accuracy is important to you.

berskyboy

Quote from: sigma7 on Today at 06:48:52 PMWith the black lead on pin 5 of the daughterboard's connector, put the red lead on each of the other connector pins and measure with diode test mode, and again with resistance mode.

Black to Pin 5, Red to Pin x
Pin x   DiodeTest Resistance  Signal. Measurements
1   inf   6k   +12 sense.     1.628
2   inf   10k   line sense.    1.842
3   1.1   >5k   +18V           0.949
4   inf   50k   on/off.        OL
-   -   -   ground
6   inf   2.6k   +5 sense.      1.196
7   inf   2.5k   current sense. 1.163
8   inf   >100k   /shutdown.     OL
9   inf   inf   /power fail.   OL
10   inf   inf   pull.          OL
11   inf   inf   push.          OL
12   1.1   >1k   logic +5.      0.871
13   inf   inf   /delay reset.  OL

TorZidan

sigma7, are you a human?

I am growing more-and-more suspicious that you may be not:
You've been guiding berskyboy relentlessly to fix his power supply.
You've been posting voltage measurements of a working power supply, photos and custom-made schematics. I have't seen such level of dedication in humans...

Kudos if you are!