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 on: February 24, 2024, 04:30:46 pm 
Started by blusnowkitty - Last post by andrew
Just found out LisaMandelbrot exists. Maybe this should be added to the list!

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 on: February 23, 2024, 03:13:12 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by Lisa2
The original Apple LaserWriter did offer ImageWriter emulation, when connected via it's serial port,  and  later Apple shipped a Postscript based ImageWriter emulator for localtalk connected LaserWriters with GS-OS for the Apple IIgs.

Have you gotten this to work? I've tried a few times with my LaseWriter, and while the emulation loads it does not actually print ImageWriter data.

-J

I don't have a LaserWriter now, but back in the 1980's I did use the LaserWriter emulation mode and it worked, but I realize it was the built-in Diablo 630 emulation and not a ImageWriter emulation. 

AFAIK, the PS ImageWriter download that was included with GSOS only worked over LocalTalk, and would not be much help for LOS..

Rick



 23 
 on: February 22, 2024, 04:20:29 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by stepleton
older versions of the LOS that may only support par-port printers.

LOS 1.0 will work with an ImageWriter over serial, FWIW. Maybe there are developmental versions that don't? (I've never seen a pre-1.0 version of LOS.)

 24 
 on: February 22, 2024, 12:38:27 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by compu_85
The original Apple LaserWriter did offer ImageWriter emulation, when connected via it's serial port,  and  later Apple shipped a Postscript based ImageWriter emulator for localtalk connected LaserWriters with GS-OS for the Apple IIgs.

Have you gotten this to work? I've tried a few times with my LaseWriter, and while the emulation loads it does not actually print ImageWriter data.

-J

 25 
 on: February 21, 2024, 09:29:54 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by Lisa2
I have ordered one of the NewPrint devices and once I receive it, I will test it out.   

Like James had pointed out, this may work as a "modern" output solution for older versions of the LOS that may only support par-port printers. 

While the NewPrint will not work with Macintosh serial ports, it should work with MacWorks on Lisa, as there is a utility to add a par-port driver to MacWorks (called "Parallel Port Install").

Rick

 26 
 on: February 21, 2024, 06:46:49 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by andrew
So, you want "straightforward" and "modern" solution, but also "cheaper" too? 

I mean I realize there's no silver bullet here nor do I mean to complain; some sacrifice must be made whether it's convenience or price. It would be nice to actually have a need for a parallel port card; I might as well take advantage of the Lisa's expandability if I have an opportunity to.

 27 
 on: February 21, 2024, 06:12:39 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by Lisa2
Is there a straightforward way to network a Lisa to a modern printer?

So, you want "straightforward" and "modern" solution, but also "cheaper" too? 

The Lisa is from 1983, an as advanced as she was at the time, in 1983 most printing solutions used parallel interfaces.   

Rick

 28 
 on: February 21, 2024, 05:46:01 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by sigma7
... I can't use a NewPrint right now since I don't have a parallel port card. Maybe it would be cheaper to just get an ImageWriter...

With a 'real' ImageWriter then you're then dealing with ribbons and presumably looking for tractor feed paper.

Also, I wonder when the serial printer driver first appeared... I suggest checking in case a parallel printer is the only option for the Workshop or earlier LOS versions?

 29 
 on: February 21, 2024, 01:44:55 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by andrew
Well... guess I can't use a NewPrint right now since I don't have a parallel port card. Maybe it would be cheaper to just get an ImageWriter...

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 on: February 21, 2024, 11:31:43 am 
Started by andrew - Last post by Lisa2
When the Lisa was 1st released in 1983, the ImageWriter did not exist yet.  Apples dot matrix printer at the time was the Apple DMP, and it had a parallel port interface.  In late 1983 to be ready for the introduction of the Macintosh, Apple introduced the Imagewriter that had a serial interface ( both the Mac and the IIc were serial only and the DMP would not connect to them ).    In fact both the DMP and the Imagewriter are both just rebadged C. Itoh 8510 printers, and as such the commands and features are the same.

The Lisa supported the DMP connected to a parallel interface (you needed a Lisa Dual Par port card and cable ), and later supported the ImageWriter using the serial interface.

The NewPrint device is parallel interface only, and should work with Lisa using the DMP driver.   The NewPrint device will not work directly with Macintosh unless you also use a par to serial converter too.

The original Apple LaserWriter did offer ImageWriter emulation, when connected via it's serial port,  and  later Apple shipped a Postscript based ImageWriter emulator for localtalk connected LaserWriters with GS-OS for the Apple IIgs.

Rick

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