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 on: February 20, 2024, 09:50:14 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by andrew
If that device is usable as a Lisa Printer, I'll definitely be getting it. Presumably, if it can work with a Lisa, it can work with a Mac, which means it would solve my printing needs for both my 2/10 and my Mac Plus. The only other question would be how best to share it between them.

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 on: February 20, 2024, 09:43:17 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by sigma7
https://www.plaidvest.com/newprint.html

This device emulates an Imagewriter.

I also recall that the original "ImageWriter" is serial. IIRC, the parallel port predecessor/equivalent was the Apple DMP, so I'm guessing that's what will be emulated.

I vaguely recollect that (most of) the commands were the same between the ImageWriter and DMP and so a serial - parallel converter would work for most purposes.

The ImageWriter II has an expansion slot, for which an AppleTalk card was available ... perhaps there was a parallel port option for it too.

Perhaps some of the Apple laser printers that had parallel ports could emulate an Apple ][ compatible DMP as well?

edit: 'cause ried beat me to it

 33 
 on: February 20, 2024, 09:40:51 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by ried
I have not tried it myself, but this device seems promising...

I believe that product emulates a parallel port printer, while the Apple ImageWriter is a serial port printer. Does that distinction make a difference here?

 34 
 on: February 20, 2024, 12:47:44 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by Lisa2
I have not tried it myself, but this device seems promising:

https://www.plaidvest.com/newprint.html

This device emulates an Imagewriter and outputs the results to a modern device over wifi.  With the proper cable for the Lisa, it should work.

If someone tests this, please let the group know how it worked.


Rick

UPDATE: I just ordered one these, I will report back on if it works or not...


 35 
 on: February 20, 2024, 09:56:20 am 
Started by andrew - Last post by blusnowkitty
To my knowledge there are no ways of getting the Office System to talk to a modern printer - it's Apple Daisy Wheel, ImageWriter, or Canon Inkjet only.

There are ImageWriter emulations in a couple of the big Apple II emulators. How complete they are, how they function, and how hard it'd be to make that code standalone I couldn't tell you.

 36 
 on: February 20, 2024, 01:58:01 am 
Started by andrew - Last post by andrew
Is there a straightforward way to network a Lisa to a modern printer? I'm thinking of getting an ImageWriter but I'd rather not have to purchase and maintain a 40 year old printer if there's an alternative solution. I specifically want to be able to print out graphical documents from LisaDraw and the rest of the 7/7.

 37 
 on: February 19, 2024, 06:18:26 pm 
Started by byteshop - Last post by ried
Apologies, I should be more clear. Some of the original bezel badges have horizontal siping and some have vertical. However, all of the reproduction badges (that we know of) have vertical siping. Here's another example of the reproductions:

https://imgur.com/gallery/hBVwMsu

As noted, there are several other key differences. Look closely at the shapes of the letters, the beveled edges, and so on. For example, look at the shape of the "v" where the i meets the s in the script. It's a sharp v in the original badges, and a funky "u" shape in the reproductions. One of many discrepancies that are easy to see, even at a distance.

 38 
 on: February 19, 2024, 03:03:23 pm 
Started by byteshop - Last post by greniu
 I would not be so certain with the statement that horizontal lines are original bezel. Here I found two examples of bezels with vertical lines on Lisa script.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/apple-lisa-0-twiggy-front-bezel-1855151843

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/original-oem-apple-lisa-0-computer-4591395455

 39 
 on: February 19, 2024, 05:26:04 am 
Started by andrew - Last post by iJol
I guess it's not a problem with manual and auto-inject drives, the difference between them started with the 1.44 MB SuperDrives in the LC-Series if I remember correctly  - you can see this on the several LCs: some have a flush faceplate and some have a rounded floppy faceplate for pushing the floppy in.

It's more a difference between the wiring of 400k and some, not all, 800k drives.

Pin 9 carries -12v and pin 20 carries the spindle speed signal for the 400k drives, which some of the 800k drives will confuse because they don't need these signals. There are two kinds of 800k drives, the red label and the black label ones. On black label drives, pin 9 is not connected and so nothing will happen, but on the red label drives, pin 9 goes to the manual eject button and your drive will go crazy.

My Lisa 2/10 / Sun Mac XL had an 800k red label drive with a modded connector missing Pin 9 and Pin 20.

 40 
 on: February 18, 2024, 12:02:15 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by AlexTheCat123
Ohhhhh! I had always wondered why one of my Lisas with an 800K floppy upgrade had a label on top of the floppy drive that said that "this 800K drive must be used with the cable that was included with the drive" but I guess that explains it! I thought it was really strange that you couldn't just use the existing 400K drive cable, but this makes a lot of sense if Sun switched over to using the manual inject drives at some point.

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