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When the Lisa was 1st released in 1983, the ImageWriter did not exist yet.  Apples dot matrix printer at the time was the Apple DMP, and it had a parallel port interface.  In late 1983 to be ready for the introduction of the Macintosh, Apple introduced the Imagewriter that had a serial interface ( both the Mac and the IIc were serial only and the DMP would not connect to them ).    In fact both the DMP and the Imagewriter are both just rebadged C. Itoh 8510 printers, and as such the commands and features are the same.

The Lisa supported the DMP connected to a parallel interface (you needed a Lisa Dual Par port card and cable ), and later supported the ImageWriter using the serial interface.

The NewPrint device is parallel interface only, and should work with Lisa using the DMP driver.   The NewPrint device will not work directly with Macintosh unless you also use a par to serial converter too.

The original Apple LaserWriter did offer ImageWriter emulation, when connected via it's serial port,  and  later Apple shipped a Postscript based ImageWriter emulator for localtalk connected LaserWriters with GS-OS for the Apple IIgs.

Rick

If that device is usable as a Lisa Printer, I'll definitely be getting it. Presumably, if it can work with a Lisa, it can work with a Mac, which means it would solve my printing needs for both my 2/10 and my Mac Plus. The only other question would be how best to share it between them.

https://www.plaidvest.com/newprint.html

This device emulates an Imagewriter.

I also recall that the original "ImageWriter" is serial. IIRC, the parallel port predecessor/equivalent was the Apple DMP, so I'm guessing that's what will be emulated.

I vaguely recollect that (most of) the commands were the same between the ImageWriter and DMP and so a serial - parallel converter would work for most purposes.

The ImageWriter II has an expansion slot, for which an AppleTalk card was available ... perhaps there was a parallel port option for it too.

Perhaps some of the Apple laser printers that had parallel ports could emulate an Apple ][ compatible DMP as well?

edit: 'cause ried beat me to it

I have not tried it myself, but this device seems promising...

I believe that product emulates a parallel port printer, while the Apple ImageWriter is a serial port printer. Does that distinction make a difference here?

I have not tried it myself, but this device seems promising:

https://www.plaidvest.com/newprint.html

This device emulates an Imagewriter and outputs the results to a modern device over wifi.  With the proper cable for the Lisa, it should work.

If someone tests this, please let the group know how it worked.

Rick

UPDATE: I just ordered one these, I will report back on if it works or not...

To my knowledge there are no ways of getting the Office System to talk to a modern printer - it's Apple Daisy Wheel, ImageWriter, or Canon Inkjet only.

There are ImageWriter emulations in a couple of the big Apple II emulators. How complete they are, how they function, and how hard it'd be to make that code standalone I couldn't tell you.

Is there a straightforward way to network a Lisa to a modern printer? I'm thinking of getting an ImageWriter but I'd rather not have to purchase and maintain a 40 year old printer if there's an alternative solution. I specifically want to be able to print out graphical documents from LisaDraw and the rest of the 7/7.

Apologies, I should be more clear. Some of the original bezel badges have horizontal siping and some have vertical. However, all of the reproduction badges (that we know of) have vertical siping. Here's another example of the reproductions:

https://imgur.com/gallery/hBVwMsu

As noted, there are several other key differences. Look closely at the shapes of the letters, the beveled edges, and so on. For example, look at the shape of the "v" where the i meets the s in the script. It's a sharp v in the original badges, and a funky "u" shape in the reproductions. One of many discrepancies that are easy to see, even at a distance.

 I would not be so certain with the statement that horizontal lines are original bezel. Here I found two examples of bezels with vertical lines on Lisa script.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/apple-lisa-0-twiggy-front-bezel-1855151843

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/original-oem-apple-lisa-0-computer-4591395455

I guess it's not a problem with manual and auto-inject drives, the difference between them started with the 1.44 MB SuperDrives in the LC-Series if I remember correctly  - you can see this on the several LCs: some have a flush faceplate and some have a rounded floppy faceplate for pushing the floppy in.

It's more a difference between the wiring of 400k and some, not all, 800k drives.

Pin 9 carries -12v and pin 20 carries the spindle speed signal for the 400k drives, which some of the 800k drives will confuse because they don't need these signals. There are two kinds of 800k drives, the red label and the black label ones. On black label drives, pin 9 is not connected and so nothing will happen, but on the red label drives, pin 9 goes to the manual eject button and your drive will go crazy.

My Lisa 2/10 / Sun Mac XL had an 800k red label drive with a modded connector missing Pin 9 and Pin 20.