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 on: February 16, 2024, 02:59:20 am 
Started by wagbox - Last post by ried
Since you are using MacWorks, try using the Floppy Emu's Macintosh mode (rather than Lisa).

I think that rainbow cable is not a stock Lisa cable...? I wonder if that could also be a contributing factor?

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 on: February 16, 2024, 01:39:12 am 
Started by wagbox - Last post by wagbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQgiXm7Xhg

Here is a video demonstrating my process. I have flashed the FloppyEmu with the newest firmware update. Let me know if there is something I am doing wrong

 73 
 on: February 16, 2024, 12:56:10 am 
Started by wagbox - Last post by ried
Just to confirm: You have flashed your Floppy Emu with the Macintosh and Lisa firmware and have it in Lisa mode, correct?

https://www.bigmessowires.com/floppy-emu/#firmware

 74 
 on: February 16, 2024, 12:19:33 am 
Started by wagbox - Last post by sigma7
I've got my Floppy Emu hooked straight to a 2/5 I/O board right now, using one of these

I see that RolandJuno's Breakout Board makes no connection to pin 20 of the floppy connector, which is where the PWM speed signal would be.

I suspect this confirms that the Floppy Emu doesn't need the PWM signal (come to think of it, maybe the 800k drive didn't use it either, only the 400k?), in which case, OP's issue seems unrelated to the Lite Adapter.

Perhaps the Floppy Emu software version is relevant?

 75 
 on: February 16, 2024, 12:04:35 am 
Started by wagbox - Last post by AlexTheCat123
It's really odd that this isn't just working for you as-is! I've got my Floppy Emu hooked straight to a 2/5 I/O board right now, using one of these cool card cage breakout boards, and it works perfectly, without a Lite Adapter or anything in between. And there isn't any hardware that modifies the floppy signals on the breakout board either. Unless I'm missing something obvious here, I don't see any reason why the same thing wouldn't apply in an actual 2/10 chassis.

 76 
 on: February 15, 2024, 11:51:50 pm 
Started by wagbox - Last post by warmech
Time is increasingly becoming a valuable commodity for me until VCFSW is over and some other projects are behind me, so I can't do much on this. However...

For those taking a crack at this, feel free to use and expand upon work I've already completed. Never thought anyone would get any use out of this thing but now it looks like someone might! Heck, if someone wants to figure out what's needed to adapt this and can provide me updates to the schematic, I can probably spare some time to draw an updated PCB for it; can't imagine it would take that long. In any case, good luck and Godspeed.

 77 
 on: February 15, 2024, 08:04:24 pm 
Started by wagbox - Last post by sigma7
For whatever reason, this 2/10 has a 2/5 IO board.
... no idea how to adapt the Lite Adapter for the 2/10.

I (and no doubt others too) will be pleased to help. I suggest we discuss off-list and post the results.

I have sent you an email.

If anyone else wants to participate in the discussion, let us know and we can CC or make it a separate topic on-list.

 78 
 on: February 15, 2024, 07:25:37 pm 
Started by wagbox - Last post by wagbox
Right. For whatever reason, this 2/10 has a 2/5 IO board.

Everything you have said lines up with the research I've done so far; I feel stuck since I have no idea how to adapt the Lite Adapter for the 2/10. Is there anyone on this board who would be able to help with such a specific matter?

 79 
 on: February 15, 2024, 06:34:53 pm 
Started by andrew - Last post by andrew
Thanks for this! Once I print them out I'll post the results here.

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 on: February 15, 2024, 06:31:43 pm 
Started by wagbox - Last post by sigma7
My Lisa 2/10 has had its IO board replaced so it has A8 ROMs.

A 2/10 I/O Board normally has an 88 ROM. If one puts an A8 ROM in a 2/10 I/O Board (ie. mismatch the I/O ROM and the I/O Board), the floppy won't work.

If the replacement board is a 2/5 I/O Board, then the A8 ROM is the appropriate match for the board, however, the 2/10 will be missing the Lite Adapter (which mounts in the drive cage of a 2/5), so the PWM speed signal to the floppy drive will be missing, preventing it from working.

To resolve this you could add the Lite Adapter between the Floppy Drive (FEMU) and the 20 pin ribbon cable in the Lisa 2/10 chassis. However, this is non-trivial as the Lite Adapter is designed for the 26 pin cable of the 2/5 chassis, so you will need to fabricate some kind of adapter/modification to use the Lite Adapter with the 2/10 chassis.

AFAIK, currently there is no posting for how to modify the Lite Adapter/cabling to use a 2/5 I/O Board in a 2/10 chassis (although there is a posting for how to modify the Lite Adapter to use a 2/10 I/O Board in a 2/5 chassis).

The 2/10 and 2/5 I/O Boards are easily distinguished by the larger chips at the top left of the board. The 2/10 I/O Board has three, the 2/5 I/O Board has two.

edit: I've assumed the FEMU needs the PWM signal, I've now realized that I'm not certain that is the case, but it seems a likely suspect for the problem.

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