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General Category => LisaList2 => Topic started by: paule on February 23, 2023, 12:28:12 am

Title: Unable to back up original disk with BLU
Post by: paule on February 23, 2023, 12:28:12 am
I was backing up my Lisa Pascal Workshop 3.0 disks using BLU last night and was getting really pleased that they were all reading without any problem. Until disk 8, which nearly finished before catching on sector 29  :( I assume it was a bad sector because the drive head kept seeking, presumably to track zero and back to retry the read? I let it keep re-trying for a couple of minutes in case there was a timeout, but finally interrupted it. Is there a way to get BLU to skip bad sectors?
Title: Re: Unable to back up original disk with BLU
Post by: sigma7 on February 23, 2023, 02:29:10 am
I was backing up my Lisa Pascal Workshop 3.0 disks using BLU last night and was getting really pleased that they were all reading without any problem. Until disk 8, which nearly finished before catching on sector 29  :( I assume it was a bad sector because the drive head kept seeking, presumably to track zero and back to retry the read? I let it keep re-trying for a couple of minutes in case there was a timeout, but finally interrupted it. Is there a way to get BLU to skip bad sectors?

IIRC, normally BLU will retry briefly, including a recal to track 0 once, then report the error and give you some choices:

 F - Fail
 R - Retry
 G - Read Ignoring Checksum (has never been useful in my experience, but the FDC offers it)
 V - Read Varying Speed (Twiggies Only)
 S - Skip This Sector

If you want to continue with the rest of the disk, you would use S - Skip This Sector

However, from your description, it sounds like BLU is retrying continuously without you asking it to... is that correct?

If so, please turn on Verbose logging (in the Miscellaneous menu), and send me an email with some of the logging output that is sent while it seems to be stuck in the retry phase.

Title: Re: Unable to back up original disk with BLU
Post by: paule on February 23, 2023, 03:33:17 pm
Yes, it sounds like continuous retries. I will send you the logging.
Title: Re: Unable to back up original disk with BLU
Post by: paule on February 24, 2023, 09:02:17 pm
From the looks of it, BLU isn't seeing an error. Here's the tail of the log:

...
Err Trk Sct Sid Spd Try Rcl DSB DEB DCS ASB AEB ScX TrX ACS
00  49  00  0   00  5D  4C  00  00  00  00  00  07  00  00
00  49  01  0   00  5F  4C  00  00  00  00  00  05  00  00
00  49  02  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00
00  49  03  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00
00  49  04  0   00  5D  4C  00  00  00  00  00  07  00  00
00  49  05  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00
00  49  06  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00
00  49  07  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00

Err Trk Sct Sid Spd Try Rcl DSB DEB DCS ASB AEB ScX TrX ACS
00  4A  00  0   00  5D  4C  00  00  00  00  00  07  00  00
00  4A  01  0   00  5F  4C  00  00  00  00  00  05  00  00
00  4A  02  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00
00  4A  03  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00
00  4A  04  0   00  5D  4C  00  00  00  00  00  07  00  00
00  4A  05  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00
00  4A  06  0   00  5E  4C  00  00  00  00  00  06  00  00 

It is at this point the drive just keeps retrying. I can't tell if it is actually seeking to another track and back, or changing the drive speed. But it just keeps going for minutes until I interrupt with the clear key.