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General Category => LisaList2 => Lisa Workshop => Topic started by: dmac1267 on September 17, 2026, 01:10:37 AM

Title: I need some assistance from the community.
Post by: dmac1267 on September 17, 2026, 01:10:37 AM
I have a personal project I am working on involving translating a program from Basic to Pascal. I have the Lisa Emulator up and running and I have the modern IDE to do the bulk of the coding in Pascal.

Where things are going sideways is that I am having trouble finding a image of the Lisa Workshop. All the ones I have been able to find appear in a format not compatible, either they say .dc42 yet the Lisa Emulator can't read it or there is no indicator of what format the files are in.

So I figured the best way is to turn to others who are smarter than me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: I need some assistance from the community.
Post by: ried on September 17, 2026, 02:33:42 AM
Which version of the Workshop are you looking for? Workshop 1.0 doesn't create LOS applications, at least easily, as far as I know. Workshop 2.0 might, and Workshop 3.0 provides the most complete toolset to create real LOS applications.

If you need to download a ready-made Workshop 3.0 disk image or set of installation disks, we can certainly help in both cases. The latter is available here:
https://www.bitsavers.org/bits/Apple/Lisa/workshop_3.0/
Title: Re: I need some assistance from the community.
Post by: jamesdenton on September 17, 2026, 08:09:54 AM
Quote from: dmac1267 on Yesterday at 01:10:37 AMI have a personal project I am working on involving translating a program from Basic to Pascal. I have the Lisa Emulator up and running and I have the modern IDE to do the bulk of the coding in Pascal.

Where things are going sideways is that I am having trouble finding a image of the Lisa Workshop. All the ones I have been able to find appear in a format not compatible, either they say .dc42 yet the Lisa Emulator can't read it or there is no indicator of what format the files are in.

So I figured the best way is to turn to others who are smarter than me. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi - which version of LisaEm are you using? If it's not something built from master or released in, say, the last 12-18 months, there's a good chance you're hitting some bugs that have already been fixed.
Title: Re: I need some assistance from the community.
Post by: dmac1267 on September 18, 2026, 03:28:32 AM
I am using LisaEm 1.2.7. I also realized where the problem was. It was with me. ;D  I re-read the instructions and  I found out I need to treat it like I did with LOS. Insert the disk and boot from the floppy. I was also able to update to Lisa Workshop 3.9. Amazing what you can do when you READ and FOLLOW direction.  ???
Title: Re: I need some assistance from the community.
Post by: stepleton on September 18, 2026, 03:50:23 AM
A question for the general audience: is Workshop 3.9 desirable? I remember that the floating point libraries introduce breaking changes for some code that compiled with WS 3.0 (hence this warning (https://codeberg.org/stepleton/LisaMandelbrot/src/branch/master/Pro#building-lisamandelbrot-pro)), and I worried that there may be other differences too.

I developed a hunch that the 3.9 update may have mainly been intended to support improved Macintosh application development, but I don't have any evidence for it.
Title: Re: I need some assistance from the community.
Post by: sigma7 on September 18, 2026, 05:48:49 AM
Quote from: stepleton on Today at 03:50:23 AMI remember ... this warning (https://codeberg.org/stepleton/LisaMandelbrot/src/branch/master/Pro#building-lisamandelbrot-pro)

Is the warning small enough to quote/embed here?