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I learned about the cable here:

https://lisafaq.sunder.net/lisafaq-hw-ser_appletalk.html

Good idea I should sound it out to make sure it's legit.

Hmmm, dunno what that cable is; you may need to map each pin's connections as it could be anything.

By "DIN3" I thought you meant the 3 pin Mini-DIN as used by Apple for connecting individual LocalTalk boxes to one-another.

Here's what I have

My Lisa DB25 LocalTalk cable arrived today but oddly it has a male DIN3

That's... weird. The bus uses the 3 pin connectors, but not the drops.

There is supposed to be a transformer between the bus and the drop to the computer, does the cable have a box in the middle of it?

edit: if you have only two devices on LocalTalk, you can wire them directly as RS-422 serial devices rather than using the LocalTalk transformer cabling.

A few more notes:

Apple fool network page says that “early” AirPort routers will handle AARP frames correctly.

In attempt to determine specifically which AirPort routers are “early” I checked 68kMLA and could not find any list of AARP compatible routers.

In response to my query I was told ALL AirPORT routers handled AARP , but my request for a packet capture confirmation was not replied to.

So…


Today I brought a newer model AirPort from FB market place and have a saved search to try to locate an early model.

Thinking the test should be easy I then realized I am not at work and my cheap home switch likely does not have port mirroring. I am down like 5 rabbit holes on this project right now but at least I am not recompiling the Lisa os

My Lisa DB25 LocalTalk cable arrived today but oddly it has a male DIN3 so now I have to find a female to female adapter. What burns my butt is I am sure I threw away dozens of these things years ago…. And now I have to rebuy them from eBay.

Getting the same issue with system 6.0.5

Wondering if you are using images of previously installed Systems obtained elsewhere, or performing the installation yourself on the Lisa using images of Apple floppies (or Apple's Net Installer)?

and... are the Systems displaying the issue installed as "Universal for all Macs, Recommended System for Mac Plus, or Minimum System for Mac Plus, etc."

and... do they have anything extra installed in addition to the Asante and MW+II software?

Getting the same issue with system 6.0.5

Installers are instructed to remove a second resistor (R41) from the I/O board.
Apparently, for some period of time R47 was the only one removed during the upgrade process.

Removing R47 is associated with switching from the Twiggy to 3.5" floppy drive.

Removing R41 was a tweak to address ProFile issues.

Here's a copy of the Level 1 Lisa Technical Procedures #072-0085 manual dated September, 1984. There's an interesting loose page floating in the back, which provides an update on the Lisa 1 to 2 upgrade procedure.

First, the CPU ROMs were no longer included in the upgrade kit. This is surprising, because I thought some later versions of LOS were not supported by C or D ROMs.

Second, installers are instructed to remove a second resistor (R41) from the I/O board. Apparently, for some period of time R47 was the only one removed during the upgrade process. That also seems a bit odd.

I use the Asante Mini EN/SC 10T, so will try a similar configuration and report.

My guess is that you don't have enough memory. I think System 6.0.8 might be the optimal choice for a 2MB Lisa with no XLerator.

Although it will consume some memory, I suggest you install MacsBug as it will provide a means to get more information when an error occurs (eg. although running the troubleshooter may have triggered it, what software ultimately generated the address error?), and can sometimes facilitate getting past an error (eg. by exiting a particular application) without having to reboot the machine, allowing you to save other work before restarting.

edit: corrected to "Mini"