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Thanks!

I will look for the image.

I have only found a compressed file that has a file inside of it not a disk image.

Attached is a ESProfile Disk Image Mac Works Pro II System 7.1.1

I made this because I could only find System 6x ESProfile images.

It is System 7.1 plus the System 7 Tune Up 1.1.1 as recommended in the Mac Works Pro II documentation.

I think your "out of disk space" error is because of the size of the BlueSCSI disk image exceeding the max size that System 7.1 can handle. I believe 7.1 can only go up to 2GB, and when you try to copy to a larger image, you get errors like that. Try installing Mac OS 7.5 instead; it supports disks up to 4GB and that should allow you to copy everything over just fine.


Note that you'll need MacWorks Plus II 2.5.3 (the version from 2011) instead of 2.5.0 in order to boot 7.5.5 without upgrading your SCC to the Z85230. There's a Floppy Emu-compatible download somewhere on this forum. You can see which version you have in the little box on the boot screen.

Attached are some MacWorks Plus II disk images that work with FloppyEMU rev C, Lisa Emulation.

The ones provided in the LisaList2 Macworks download section do not work with my FloppyEMU as of the date of this post.

Update.

I found some working MacWorks + II images (working for FloppyEMU) and successfully created a new 10meg profile image.

It booted into MacWorks but after a power-off and start up is giving a HD 85 error.

If I "continue" it does boot into MacWorks (odd eh?)

Cant test file copies right now, I have to get back to work.



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Since I got my Lisa up and running, I have been plagued with file system issues.

Any copy of large files or large numbers of files will cause a number of errors.

I thought I might have a bad ESProfile but I purchased a second one, it came from a different maker with a different set of images but I am still having problems.

I am wondering if perhaps my frequency generator daughter board, I got from Retro, is bad?

Today, I tried making a Mac Works 3.0 volume from scratch following the instructions posted here. It made the volume. I copied over the system folder, but I got a very distorted screen on the attempted boot.

I have run my Lisa for days at a time, and it works fine for some of the small applications I have been able to copy to the profile image or run off of floppies (MacWrite, LisaWrite, SimCity). I have 3 CPU cards one with a 16mhz accelerator and they all seem to run fine just with storage issues.

I mounted a known-good disk image from a friend with my BlueSCSI, and I also get errors when trying to copy large files (or large numbers of files) to and from this volume.

I have 3 RAM boards including an AST ram board and have swapped all of them with no change of symptoms.

I have used Micro SD cards of 5 differn't brands, all formated FAT32 from the factory, or Window OS or the special SIM CARD FORMATTER application. I have used SD cards from standard speeds all the way up to A1 and A2 V30.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

The first image is what I got after making the MacWorks 3 ESProfile volume from a blank .image and FloppyEMU MacWorks 3 floppy images.

The other images are of limited use as I don't have documentation on what I was doing when these occurred but perhaps they might spir some ideas.

Configuration:

Lisa 2/10 with frequency generator installed on I/O board. HROMs
2x ESProfiles
FloppyEMU
1 CPU board with 16mhx Xlerator & SCSI & BlueSCSI
2 stock CPU boards
2 stock RAM board
1 1.5meg RAM board
Good recapped PSU 1.8a
Mac Plus extended Keyboard with Lisa Keyboard Adapter
Lisa 1 replica mouse (modern mouse)

I agree - the clean and tested boards should be at a premium above the eBay historical - when looking at pricing history on eBay (3yr historical) or the Worthpoint (10yr?) pay attention to how often they come up as well - scarcity adds to that value as well.  Even then, some parts can be a bit more nuanced; the early series golden memory chipped boards have more value to a LISA1 collection than the 2/10 hobbyist.

When using FloppyEMU (using LISA emulation, Rev C, newist bios) and MW+II 2.5.0 BOOT disk.dc42 downloaded from here I am unable to boot from the floppy ( apple lisa IO error 38 ).

However the Mac Works Plus 1.1 floppy image provided with the FloppyEMU boots fine (but I need to run 2.5.0 and hopefully upgrade then to the provided beta).

Please let me know if a FloppyEMU compatible disk image can be provided or a source given.

thanks!

Yes, most likely. Thanks for your insight. By the way, my monkeying around with this power supply and the lack of power-on control might have led to faulty write events in my HDD, as your rightfully suggested. I'm afraid I now need to do a LL format to clean up the disks, as the HDD does not come ready any longer.

Thanks to this board, I am now learning how to do this with BLU and the Zilog Z8613 piggyback trick. Fortunately I happened to have one on my 10MB Profile. Jut need to find out how to do it.

I might bug this forum again if I need help.

Thanks !!

So I suspect that the "AC OK" signal needs to be delayed a bit after the PS is turned on. I read reports that it is done to protect the board from initial voltage surges. Can anyone confirm that, or help in any way if I'm wrong.

Looking at ProFile controller and drive board schematics, as far as I can tell, when the PowerOK signal is low, it:

• Disables write current to the heads
  
• Holds the Z8 microcontroller in the Reset state
  
• Resets the address counters for the DMA memory used for transfers to/from the host
  

Also, the CRES reset signal from the host just pulls PowerOK low, so evidently the signal functions as reset in general.

I speculate the design intent of PowerOK in this case is to prevent erroneous writing to the disk when the circuitry doesn't have sufficiently reliable power to operate correctly, and doubles as a power-up reset.

So I'm wondering if there is something about the original PSU's (or that specific replacement PSU's) output sequencing that creates the need to hold PowerOK false... interesting.