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I got rid of my 3-D printers to make room for my Apple ][ and Lisa projects, but I have a friend that prints stuff for me and he can't seem to just make one of anything when I ask him for a favor.

I have some extra 3-D printed stuff and I wanted to offer it for free to the Lisa list community since you guys have helped me through so much and I've had very little to offer in return so far.

Anything in the photo you want is free even if you want more than one thing. However, here's the catch you're gonna have to pay for shipping.

First come first serve I'll try to keep a running list on what's available.

Currently available are some external ESPROFILE cases printed in blue that are mini replicas of an actual Apple profile. I suppose you could paint them to match your lisa if you don't like the blue.

I have four external SPROFILE cases in the small size format one blue and three in almond.

I have one floppy EMU case printed in black

Three lisa RS 232 expansion accessory covers

Two Lisa plane expansion accessory covers

Three internal SPROFILE shelves two in orange one in white

All of these prints are fresh off the printer so they haven't been sanded or finished in anyway.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

a Mac Plus accelerator!

What would you speculate "made to work" might entail?

After prototyping an adapter to install a specific design, I can imagine substantial challenges in signal timing differences from the Mac Plus, variations in 680x0 exception frames interfering with the self-test requiring a modified CPU ROM, configuration software compatibility issues, and possibly unexpected show-stoppers that only become apparent after you solve the initial problems.

However, it isn't impossible that a Mac Plus accelerator would "just work", so I think it is worth trying any that physically fit with minimal effort. Try it and see.

Depending on why you'd consider that route (instead of using a real MacII, Quadra, or G3/G4): there were some 68020 (and possibly 68030 too) accelerator boards for the Mac Plus; you might be able to find one that can be made to work in a Lisa with less investment.

I have some hope/expectation that Lisa in an FPGA might well outperform a real 68020.

Whoa! I never even thought of using a Mac Plus accelerator!

What would you speculate "made to work" might entail?

The FPGA project is fantastic also, but I hope that project leads to new hardware that can be installed in the lisa case perhaps or a reborn modern Lisa?

Does anyone have one of the Raspberry Pi mini-Lisas?

If so, could you please send me an image of your MicroSD card?

1. Could the Mac Plus ROM image that MacWorks loads be replaced with say Mac II ROM?
2. Could MacWorks be remade to work on 68020 or 68030 processors?

Yes, those are technically possible, but like so many Lisa enhancements, they are not economically viable as a commercial endeavour. It would take a tremendous donation in time and effort, such as Ray made to develop LisaEm.

Depending on why you'd consider that route (instead of using a real MacII, Quadra, or G3/G4): there were some 68020 (and possibly 68030 too) accelerator boards for the Mac Plus; you might be able to find one that can be made to work in a Lisa with less investment.

I have some hope/expectation that the Lisa in an FPGA might well outperform a real 68020.

I have worked in IS and IT for many decades, but I am NOT a developer* so complex programs and especially operating system work is completely smoke and mirrors from my perspective. With that in mind, I hope you guys don't mind some naive speculative questions:

Everyone, including myself, is wildly excited about the new possibilities of new programs and OS features being created thanks to the work on the Lisa source code. However, what about MacWorks?

1. Could the Mac Plus ROM image that MacWorks loads be replaced with say Mac II ROM?

2. Could MacWorks be remade to work on 68020 or 68030 processors?






*(I have written countless scripts and did some HTML back in the day but my friends that are legit developers tell me that if I don't compile I'm not a developer! )

Nice software library BTW!

I did not know about that one.

Are you using MacTCP Ping to send pings from the Mac system?

Now I understand, good question!

Yes, I am using MacTCP Ping but I don't know if it is the same version that you link to. I will check when I get home. I was using the version that came with the "BlueSCSI Toolbox"

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Quote from: D.Finni on September 29, 2025, 03:14:53 pm

You need to do more than pings to test MacTCP. What TCP applications have you run on System 7.1?

Thanks for the reply!

MacWeb 2.0

I am curious why you would need more than Ping?

Unless blocked by a firewall process, a ping should always receive a response from a TCP/IP host.

That's true, but when you run a TCP application on the Mac, then you know that the MacTCP driver ought to be loaded into RAM and active.

Are you using MacTCP Ping to send pings from the Mac system?

You need to do more than pings to test MacTCP. What TCP applications have you run on System 7.1?

Thanks for the reply!

MacWeb 2.0

I am curious why you would need more than Ping?

Unless blocked by a firewall process, a ping should always receive a response from a TCP/IP host. As long as you ping an IP address and not a name, you don't have to worry about other services, such as DNS or specific ports. Even if the MacPing app is defective, a ping from another local host should get a response.

What other app(s) would be better?