RE: Lisa 1 on Ebay

You can search the complete auctions on Ebay and it will show you.

I think the software may be worth at least that much alone.  

From: lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden [mailto:lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden] On Behalf Of sarahstryker_at_email.domain.hidden Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:06 PM To: lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden
Subject: Re: Lisa 1 on Ebay  

Hi folks!
I know I haven't been much of a participant on this Lisa mailing list ... life getting in the way, LOL. But I do have some questions. I have a Lisa/Macintosh XL, and what is a near-mint, probably never used Lisa Office Suite in the original box with the manuals which I won on eBay for $140, I think it was, several years ago. What would that software suite, in its pristine condition, be worth nowadays? Sally      

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From: Ray Arachelian <ray_at_email.domain.hidden> To: lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden
Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 11:22 am
Subject: Re: Lisa 1 on Ebay

John Musbach wrote:

> ROFL, plus $250 shipping. Amazing that someone purchased this item for

> that much money--especially in these hard economic times. What makes

> the lisa 1 so special? The SE/30 is one of the best compact macs, and

> even with things like a xceed grey scale card I have yet to see it

> sell anywhere near this price.

>

Hello HexStar,

Welcome back. :-)

So Lisa 1's are extremely rare because most of them were upgraded to

Lisa 2's - that's what makes them so valuable. At the time, most of

their owners were glad to be rid of the Twiggy drives which were very

unreliable. Of course, when you're a historian or a collector, in which

case the rarer the items, the more valuable. Historically, fully

working Lisa 1's go for $10K+, so $12K isn't out of the ordinary

considering inflation and the number of dollars Uncle Sam is printing

(well creating electronically, but that's another discussion for another

place.)

As for SE/30's, yes, they are very cool machines. I wish I had one. I

do have an SE, but it's not the same.

Of course a Lisa and an SE/30 are completely different beasts. The only

things they have in common are that Apple made them, and they're based

on Motorola CPU's. Remember that the Lisa is a workstation class

machine with multiple processors and has more in common with a mini than

a desktop such as the SE/30. They do run completely different operating

systems, though of course MacWorks allows MacOS to run on the Lisa, but

as it's got a completely different architecture, it's not quite the same

thing.

Certainly my MacBook Pro runs rings around both the Lisa and the SE/30,

and is one of the best notebooks ever built - but it doesn't mean I

wouldn't want to have all three said machines, or that I'd say that the

Lisa (or the SE/30) wasn't special.

btw, is your archive still online somewhere? it is/was a valuable

resource. Let me know and I'll add a link to it in the FAQ.

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