Re: Reversing screen mod

Hi everybody,

and "hello Rick", nice to hear from you again, it's been a long time... since you tested the Lisa-Server. Perhaps you remember the first tests and the results, when you hat to shut down the system due to a storm coming up at that night with thunder and lightning

Well, in my opinion a modificated Lisa has a little less historical value.
It doesn't matter whether it's an upgraded Lisa 1 to Lisa 2 or it's a screen-modificated Lisa 2 or it's a Lisa, where different parts have been replaced due to their age and reliability... it's simple not THE original manufactured Lisa
and much more important for me as a former collector: There will be huge efforts to made for re-modificate the Lisa with origin parts again!
Sometimes even impossible, because the needed parts for doing that aren't still availlable :-(

I remember maybe 10 years ago, there has been a post in former LisaList. A guy asked for a non-working Lisa to modify. But he didn't intend to repair the Lisa again or his mod wasn't a simple screen- upgrade, no... he really wanted only to use the case to build a retro- computer containing "modern" technology: a pentium-board running Windows 98
Perhaps some of the members here in the list remember the yelling "OH, NO!" replys to that post.
There was a short time but also intens discussion, about the pros and cons of this project.
The posts weren't as friendly and liberal as these in the discussion now; perhaps because of the fact that those mod could have been considered a sacrilege :-)

So, what ever you do, you should treat a Lisa with the respect it deserves! I think it's more than only a computer: It's a small milestone in computer-history and compared to the first Mac (which in press is always ment to be a revolution) the Lisa with its hardware architecture and the immense progress in its software LOS deserves that title "break in the universe" more than every other computer of Apple Inc.

... in my opinion only, of course!

greetings: TOM from Bavaria, the center of europe, the marvellous castles of Koenig Ludwig e.g. Neuschwanstein and last but not least the original Oktoberfest ! ... and the perhaps not really perfect english-speaking but much better bavarian-speaking people there *grin*

Am 03.03.2010 um 19:28 schrieb Lisa2.com:

> On Mar 1, 5:46 pm, Peter <pleon..._at_email.domain.hidden> wrote:
>> I ask because it strikes me that, long-term, the value of running
>> original Lisa OS(es) on original hardware will outpace the value of
>> running System 6 under MacWorks, from a computer history point of
>> view.
>
> I don't agree with this statement! A screen-modded Lisa has no less
> "historical" value. Lisa's running MacWorks or Xenix are still
> Lisa's, all the hardware is exactly the same. It's pretty impressive
> from a "historical" point of view that Lisa can run newwer OSes (just
> try running Windows95 on a 1983 PC/XT).
>
> It would have been stupid for Apple not to offer the screen mod, and
> adapt the Mac's better square pixel design. Plus, with the great
> emulators available today, anyone can experience the LisaOS with out
> having a Lisa to run it on.
>
> I agree that a Lisa1 will always be worth more, but a Lisa2 is a
> Lisa2, plain-and-simple.
> How does the rest of group feel about this?
> Rick
>
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