I think it would be a lot of fun just writing a simple 'hello world' type of program and running it on lisa.
It would interesting to see the differences in today's programming vs. Lisa in 1982.  Yes, I am geek :-)

-Chandra


On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 9:48 AM, <lincoln.roop@gmail.com> wrote:
David,

Thanks for taking the time to write such an informative response and point me to these resources.  If I am able to produce something, I will definitely make a post about it here.  I'm glad that the documentation and disk images still exist, tracking down resources for older platforms can be quite challenging.

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:01:10 PM UTC-4, DAVID T CRAIG wrote:
Hello Lincoln,

Developing Apple Lisa desktop tools requires the APPLE LISA TOOLKIT. Documentation and disk images for this may be found at:

http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/apple/lisa/toolkit_3.0/

The Lisa Workshop development environment is needed for Toolkit development. The toolkit is based on an extended version of the Pascal language called Clascal which added object-oriented programming to the Apple Lisa Pascal language. Clascal is documented in the above Bitsavers.org web site. I used the Toolkit long ago and found it very powerful, but you have to read a lot to understand what you need to know given the object libraries are rather extensive. Apple provides a very good introduction to Clascal.

I have attached 2 articles about the Toolkit and Clascal which may be useful. Some other Lisa stuff is also provided that may interest you too.

Apple also provided what was called QUICK PORT that allowed you to create programs for the Office System Desktop environment, but Quick Port was not as versatile as the Toolkit. But Quick Port was easier to use if your program's desktop requirements were not extensive. I also believe Quick Port did not provide access to the Toolkit libraries. I recall Quick Port was documented in the Lisa Operating System reference manual set (3 volumes).

I've also BCCed one of the Lisa Toolkit's authors in case he has anything to add or correct any mistakes here.

Hope this helps. If you actually produce a Lisa Toolkit tool please let me and this LisaList know.

Regards,
David Craig

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On October 23, 2014, at 12:08 PM, lincol...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm interested in learning about what it would take to write a Lisa application that would actually be recognized by and run inside the Office System instead of the Programmer's Workshop.  I've read some documentation, and see in an old notice to potential third-party developers, Apple mentioned the future existence of an "Application Developer's Toolkit" that would allow this, due to be available in late 1983.  Did this product ever actually get released?

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