oops sorry, it's 1.66ghz not 1.55ghz

On 1/29/07, Hex Star <hexstar@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your very helpful reply :-) ...I just downloaded the newest version of LisaEm and the issue still exists (I still get that error message)...

the version of the ROM is booth.bin

the system image I'm trying to boot is Lisa Office System 5/5.image which I got from a vintage mac file archive

processor is Intel Core Duo 1.55ghz (thus using Intel version of LisaEm), Mac OS X 10.4.8 with all the latest patches, 2gb ram

is it perhaps that that version of LOS is too old (I think I read somewhere on the LisaEm site that it runs at least 7/7?)? There isn't any place I can find at least that provides these OSes for download and I certainly would consider them abandonware...perhaps someone who has known working copies of one or more LisaEm compatible OSes could zip 'em up and send 'em to me via a email attatchment if they're 10mb or less or send them to my via a service like yousendit.com (MacWorks would definetly be neat too) or point me to a site that has one or more of these OSes for download? Thanks! :-)


On 1/29/07, James MacPhail <gg_@sigmasevensystems.com> wrote:


Hi Hex,

>the author seems to have disappeared... :-/
>Why are you answering everyone elses reqest for help except mine???
>Please help me and stop ignoring me! :-(

Ray has a full time job and a family, so he will be prioritizing his time
based on a number of factors; it isn't personal.

If we don't hear from him for a week or three it doesn't mean he has
disappeared... he has been working on this for years; I'm sure he is
motivated to get any serious bugs resolved, but it will take some time.

We all know that software that doesn't work right can be frustrating, but
politeness and patience will probably help make it worthwhile for him.

>screenshot of the error I am unsure of its meaning

[The image shows Lisa startup error 10735]

Error 10735 is "SYSTEM.LLD missing"

I expect that means that you need to get the newest version, but it could
be some other problem, such as a problem with the floppy disk image you are
trying to boot.

>please tell me if that's the catch 22 you were referring to???

The catch-22 was that the first release wouldn't work without a profile
image, and the profile code was broken, so you couldn't create one. Perhaps
this was one of the symptoms.

>Does this new release you've mentioned resolve this issue?

Yes, it is supposed to.

Try the latest version. If the problem persists, let us know with:

- version of the Lisa ROM are you using
- floppy image are you trying to boot
- specifics of your platform (processor, OS version, amount of RAM)

>By more modern machines are you implying my mac mini is not modern?

He was saying that slower machines might not run the emulator at an
acceptable pace (I expect he will be able to improve on this over the next
few months). He wasn't implying anything about your particular mini.

As you know, there is more than one version of the mini, and their
performance varies. If yours is one of the current models (eg. 1.6 GHz
Intel coreDuo), I would put it at the "pretty-fast" end of the spectrum.

Regardless, you get to decide if the performance of a particular version of
the software on some particular piece of hardware is good enough for you.
In fact, since the Lisa was generally considered fairly slow and sluggish,
fast hardware might not give an accurate emulation.

>please zip up the scanned images of the lisa books you have and upload it

You can already find most, if not all, useful Lisa documents on various
websites; you might try these:

  < http://www.macmothership.com/lisacontent/lisahome.html >

  <http://www.repairyourmac.com/lisa/>

  < http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=apple+lisa >

HTH,

James








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