Re: Free IBM AT

From: Justaname <Justaname_at_email.domain.hidden>
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:44:24 -0500


My opinion as an Apple employee at the time (79 to 86 in MIS) supports your opinion. It was just plain hubris that John Couch's team thought they knew what people needed (not what they wanted). I just don't have the energy to regale the list with stories from meetings with Lisa development staff. Don't misunderstand. These were very bright and hardworking people. We had all be blinded to some degree by our successes. We just thought we could do it all and do it alone. We didn't get it.

On Feb 23, 2006, at 8:59 PM, sauersr_at_email.domain.hidden wrote:

> It's truly a shame that the Lisa wasn't a success. If Apple had had
> better
> management, perhaps the company's primary platform would have had
> protected memory. It would have given Apple more credibility and saved

> users from a lot of pain.
>
> The Lisa's failure in the market doesn't diminish the excellence of so
> much of its design. It just makes it sad to contemplate what the
> platform
> could have become, had it been extended.
>
>
>
>> my apologies. I thought this was a classiccmp.org mail
>> list post. Neither can be distinguised from the other

>> unless you look at the headers. And I didn't expect to
>> see a PEECEE offered on this one! Please disregard my
>> earlier message...*yikes*
>>
>> --- Chris M <chrism3667_at_email.domain.hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, especially if you had bough either new. The
>>> Lisa
>>> was a flop, cost twice as much as an AT (at least),
>>> and the AT was a huge success (not knocking Lisa's

>>> though - I own one of each :).
>>>
>>> --- Jerome Vernet <vernet.jerome_at_email.domain.hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 23 fvr. 06, 18:50, Jason Perkins a crit :

>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if you guys are into collecting
>>>> vintage PCs at all, but I
>>>>> just got a free IBM AT that I simply don't have

>>>> the time to mess with
>>>>> or room to store. It's got 512k of ram, a 286
>>> (w/
>>>> the co proc I think,
>>>>> I'll have to look), a VGA card of that vintage,
>>>> and a 20M Seagate disk
>>>>> (not a Computer Memories unit :( ), and the
>>> usual
>>>> 5 1/2" disk. The
>>>>> case is in very nice shape, the front plastic is
>>>> not faded.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can send you pictures if you like. It's all
>>>> original.. I would like
>>>>> to keep it, but I really need to do some
>>> invatory
>>>> reduction.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lisa and IBM PC AT...Both famous historicals
>>> systems
>>>> ;). I have both of
>>>> them, it's really a pity to compare them !
>>>>
>>>> Apart the weight, may be ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jerome
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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