Re: "Lisa" mice

Hello Rick,

Lisa mouse development information is available from the Stanford University archives. Info attached. Same for Apple's Lisa mouse patent (this also patents drop-down menus).

My reading from these materials is the Lisa mouse development pre-dated the Mac mouse. See page 26 of the Stanford document for Lisa mouse history and page 38 for Mac mouse comments.

It would also be very interesting reading to obtain copies of Apple's in-house mouse development newsletter which was called MOUSE DROPPINGS. The Stanford document mentions this. Obtaining development mice would also be interesting, believe these are very ... very rare.

Hope this helps.

• David Craig

> Until any Apple documents can be found or an Apple employee of the time can verify this, all the info on this subject is just speculation or opinion. It's assumed that since the Lisa predates the Mac that Lisa mouse design predates the Mac mouse. Once the Mac began shipping it's really a gray area as to if and when Apple started shipping mac mice with Lisa.
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> I can tell you from observation that most Lisa 1 and Lisa2/5 systems I have worked on had the Lisa style mouse and the 2/10 systems had Mac type mice. It's also known that late in the Lisa product cycle Apple was reluctant to build more parts inventory for the Lisa product line and the Mac was selling poorly, so it would have been logical for Apple not make more Lisa mice and use Mac mice at that point, but this is just a educated guess.
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> Lisa mice were a popular item for Mac users early on (before 3rd party mice where available) who liked the "feel" of the Lisa mouse over the Mac mouse, and a lot of mouse "trading" was going on. Also later when SUN Remarking was selling the old inventory for Apple they did a lot of mixing and matching of components to get together complete working systems to sell, so I would not be uncommon for them to ship an early Lisa with a Mac mouse.
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> Rick

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application/pdf attachment: LisaPatentMouse.pdf



application/pdf attachment: AppleLisa-MouseDevelopment.pdf