Re: Question about 1 vs 2

From: Philip Lord <philip_at_email.domain.hidden>
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 21:43:49 +0900


Thank you vert very much...I'll give it a go now.

Phil

On Oct 8, 2005, at 9:36 PM, Guido Deiana wrote:

> Hi Philip,
> I've prepared for you some image files that will be usefull.
> You can download them directly from my website:
> http://www.deiana.com/lisa/
>
> - LOS3.1#1.dart.hqx is the binexed image, in DART format, for the
> Lisa OS 3.1 US boot disk ;
> - MacWorksXL_TEST_Ver3.0.dart.hqx is the binexed image, in DART
> format, for the MacWorksXL TEST v.3.0 (LISA Format, it boot directly
> and test correctly the Mac XL hardware).
> - DART.sit.hqx is the binexed stuffit compressed application to use
> to create the floppies (Use an old Mac to launch Dart).
> Ciao,
>
> Guido Deiana
> Padova, Italy
>
> -------- Messaggio Originale --------
>
> ==> Da: Philip Lord <philip_at_email.domain.hidden>
> ==> Data: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 11:30:26 0900
>
> As my HD is non functional at present, I was wondering if anyone has
> a bootable disk image that they could email me and I can continue
> testing my lisa with?
>
> Or even better does anyone know where I can download a bootable disk
> image?
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil
>
> On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Philip Lord wrote:
>
>
>> Thanks again for the insights. > > I have done a little more
>> testing: > > - Error 57 with Parallel cable plugged in (rear port)
>> > - Will not attempt to boot from floppy with parallel cable >
>> unplugged (from rear), but no error 57. Waits on 'insert floppy' >
>> prompt. Does not see floppy > - With all internal cables unplugged
>> from HD, floppy will attempt > to boot. However it is ejected very
>> quickly. I assume It can not > find the system on the disc (I can
>> not confirm 100% if I actually > have a bootable floppy) > > As
>> Tom mentioned, I think these could all be symptoms of bad power, >
>> bad drive or bad drive controller board. > And as jerry mentioned,
>> this setup was working (as is) a few years > back, so It is very
>> unlikely to be a ROM version problem, or > mismatched
>> parts ...will investigate further. > > Cheers > > Phil > > On Oct
>> 5, 2005, at 5:07 PM, macmoni wrote: > > >> Hi Philip, >> >> short
>> answers again :-) >> >> >>> >>> ...has what looks like a Sun Rem
>> 20 meg HD installed internally >>> with a cable... >>> >>> >>
>> definiteley a later-on upgraded Lisa. Very likely not by Apple !
>> >> >> >>> >>> Can I boot from a floppy without a keyboard and
>> mouse??? >>> >>> >> Yes, of course; no problem. But then you can't
>> do some further >> tests - without mouse or keyboard... >> To shut
>> down the Lisa again, you will have to push the start >> button
>> again and wait some seconds until you hear a "clack" and >> the
>> screen will get dark. >> >> >>> >>> 'If' the floppy works then I
>> can assume the Sun Rem HD, or HD >>> controller card is bad. Would
>> I be correct? >>> >>> >> Yes, or this Sun Remarketing HD
>> interferes with the Lite-Adapter >> or the ROM on the IO Board, as
>> I wrote in my last email yesterday. >> Or the whole configuration
>> consumes so much power, that your >> (still built in) 1.2 A power
>> supply isn't able to feed :-) >> Or somebody interchanged the IO
>> Board. You cannot run every type >> of IO-Boards in a Lisa, when
>> you want to use a HardDisk >> (especially the early Boards). >> >>
>> >>> >>> ...mouse is a M0100... the same as the Mac 128/512k's
>> mouse. >>> However the connector on the back of the lisa does not
>> look like >>> the connector on the original Macs... >>> >>> >>
>> There were three kinds of mice available: >> >> The first ones for
>> Lisa (and for Apple II with Mouse Card in the >> expansion slot).
>> Characteristic was the plastic connector which >> could be
>> described as an rectangle with round corners and the >> upper side
>> of the rectangle was additional 3mm spared out. >> The second
>> mouse (chronological) was the Mac 1984 mouse (later >> renamed Mac
>> 128k). The connector is much bigger, cause it now has >> two
>> screws with huge knobs. The Pins are the same, so it will fit >>
>> like the first mouse. >> >> The third mouse has a much smaller
>> connector again, but the two >> scres remained, although they are
>> not so big (smaller diameter) >> >> All these three types of mice
>> will fit in the connector-plug of a >> Lisa. >> I had a Prototype
>> of a Lisa 1, which had a connector, which only >> supports the
>> mouse 1, cause there was this rectangle "nose" on top >> of the
>> connector of the motherboard. >> >> >>> >>> On the occasions when
>> the power supply works, the monitor will >>> occasionally shift of
>> flicker very slightly, this movement seems >>> rhythmically timed
>> >>> >>> >> interesting ! >> I never saw this before. Chaotic, yes,
>> but predictable, cause >> rhytmically... >> What time periods? >>
>> >> >>> with a quiet hissing noise from the PSU. I'm waiting for a
>> 1.8 >>> amp PSU to arrive soon. >>> >>> >> That's better, in
>> deed ! >> >> Greetings TOM from bavaria, the center of europe, the
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