Guido Deiana
Padova, Italy
==> Da: Philip Lord <philip_at_email.domain.hidden>
==> Data: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 11:30:26 0900
As my HD is non functional at present, I was wondering if anyone has a bootable disk image that they could email me and I can continue testing my lisa with?
Or even better does anyone know where I can download a bootable disk image?
Cheers
Phil
On Oct 6, 2005, at 12:18 PM, Philip Lord wrote:
> Thanks again for the insights. > > I have done a little more testing: > > - Error 57 with Parallel cable plugged in (rear port) > - Will not attempt to boot from floppy with parallel cable > unplugged (from rear), but no error 57. Waits on 'insert floppy' > prompt. Does not see floppy > - With all internal cables unplugged from HD, floppy will attempt > to boot. However it is ejected very quickly. I assume It can not > find the system on the disc (I can not confirm 100% if I actually > have a bootable floppy) > > As Tom mentioned, I think these could all be symptoms of bad power, > bad drive or bad drive controller board. > And as jerry mentioned, this setup was working (as is) a few years > back, so It is very unlikely to be a ROM version problem, or > mismatched parts ...will investigate further. > > Cheers > > Phil > > On Oct 5, 2005, at 5:07 PM, macmoni wrote: > > >> Hi Philip, >> >> short answers again :-) >> >> >>> >>> ...has what looks like a Sun Rem 20 meg HD installed internally >>> with a cable. .. >>> >>> >> definiteley a later-on upgraded Lisa. Very likely not by Apple ! >> >> >>> >>> Can I boot from a floppy without a keyboard and mouse??? >>> >>> >> Yes, of course; no problem. But then you can't do some further >> tests - without mouse or keyboard... >> To shut down the Lisa again, you will have to push the start >> button again and wait some seconds until you hear a "clack" and >> the screen will get dark. >> >> >>> >>> 'If' the floppy works then I can assume the Sun Rem HD, or HD >>> controller card is bad. Would I be correct? >>> >>> >> Yes, or this Sun Remarketing HD interferes with the Lite-Adapter >> or the ROM on the IO Board, as I wrote in my last email yesterday. >> Or the whole configuration consumes so much power, that your >> (still built in) 1.2 A power supply isn't able to feed :-) >> Or somebody interchanged the IO Board. You cannot run every type >> of IO-Boards in a Lisa, when you want to use a HardDisk >> (especially the early Boards). >> >> >>> >>> ...mouse is a M0100... the s ame as the Mac 128/512k's mouse. >>> However the connector on the back of the lisa does not look like >>> the connector on the original Macs... >>> >>> >> There were three kinds of mice available: >> >> The first ones for Lisa (and for Apple II with Mouse Card in the >> expansion slot). Characteristic was the plastic connector which >> could be described as an rectangle with round corners and the >> upper side of the rectangle was additional 3mm spared out. >> The second mouse (chronological) was the Mac 1984 mouse (later >> renamed Mac 128k). The connector is much bigger, cause it now has >> two screws with huge knobs. The Pins are the same, so it will fit >> like the first mouse. >> >> The third mouse has a much smaller connector again, but the two >> scres remained, although they are not so big (smaller diameter) >> >> All these three types of mice will fit in the connector-plug of a >> Lisa. >> I had a Prototype of a Lisa 1, which had a connector, which only >> supports the mouse 1, cause there was this
rectangle "nose" on top >> of the connector of the motherboard. >> >> >>> >>> On the occasions when the power supply works, the monitor will >>> occasionally shift of flicker very slightly, this movement seems >>> rhythmically timed >>> >>> >> interesting ! >> I never saw this before. Chaotic, yes, but predictable, cause >> rhytmically... >> What time periods? >> >> >>> with a quiet hissing noise from the PSU. I'm waiting for a 1.8 >>> amp PSU to arrive soon. >>> >>> >> That's better, in deed ! >> >> Greetings TOM from bavaria, the center of europe, the country of >> the alps, the marvellous castles of Koenig Ludwig and the original >> Oktoberfest >> >> -- >> LisaList is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... >> >> Shop buy.com and save. <http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html> >> >> Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> >> >> LisaList info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html> >> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" >> Send list messages to: <mailto:lisalist_at_mail.mac launch.com> >> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:lisalist-off_at_email.domain.hidden> >> For digest mode, email: <mailto:lisalist-digest_at_email.domain.hidden> >> Subscription questions: <mailto:listmom_at_email.domain.hidden> >> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden/> >> >> iPod Accessories for Less >> at 1-800-iPOD.COM >> Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal >> www.1800ipod.com >> >> >> > > -- > LisaList is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... > > Shop buy.com and save. <http://lowendmac.com/ad/buy.com.html> > > Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> > > LisaList info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/lisa.html> > --> AOL users, remove "mailto:" > Send list messages to: <mailto:lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden> > To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:lisalist-off_at_email.domain.hidden> > For digest mode, email: <mailto:lisalist-digest_at_email.domain.hidden> > Subscription questions: <mailto:listmom_at_email.domain.hidden> > Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/lisalist_at_mail.maclaunch.com/> > > iPod Accessories for Less > at 1-800-iPOD.COM > Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal > www.1800ipod.com > >
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