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fri0701

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Re: List of All Lisa Software
« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2021, 10:21:34 am »

Hi everyone,
I recently purchased the copy of Art Department (the 3rd-party LisaDraw clipart package) that was for sale on eBay. I've scanned everything included, and I've uploaded it all to an archive.org project here: https://archive.org/details/apple-lisa-art-department/

I don't own a Lisa with Twiggy drives, but I'm hoping to be able to meet up with someone post-pandemic who can help me dump the included disk.

@blusnowkitty - you may be interested to know that in the manual I received, a reference is made to the clipart being on "One 5 1/4-inch diskette or two 3 1/2-inch microdiskettes (Parts A and B)", so it does seem like this clipart package did make it onto the Lisa 2. The hunt continues...

Things included in the archive:
- scans of the case (I apologize for the streaking - the outer graphics are sealed in a warped plastic "envelope")
- scans of the included disk and sleeve
- a PDF scan of the manual
- scans of the clipart index. These fold-out cards were included so the user could put them in their LisaDraw binder and reference the available clipart. They are pretty long, so I scanned them in pieces and put them together digitally to visualize what they look like when laid out flat.
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Re: List of All Lisa Software
« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2021, 03:21:10 pm »

Many thanks @fri0701! This is awesome!
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Re: List of All Lisa Software
« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2021, 10:47:47 am »

Cool, I've updated Art Department's entry on the list. Thanks!
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Re: List of All Lisa Software
« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2021, 07:07:08 pm »

Note the Lisa image on page 8/13, under "Equipment"
https://archive.org/details/apple-lisa-art-department/Office.jpg

Look familiar? The clue for me is the screen image generically showing us some "Presentation Graphics". That's the image that's on the front of all of David T. Craig's collected documents.

@fri0701: as time and conditions allow, I'm always happy to try and recover Twiggy disk data. The disks have to make it to London somehow. Whether I'm a good option for you or not, how do the disks look --- is the media surface in good condition, or is it mouldy or degraded?

Thanks for scanning these!
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Re: List of All Lisa Software
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2021, 10:18:03 pm »

@stepleton - I appreciate your offer, but I'm in the US and would prefer to avoid shipping internationally. To be honest, I'd prefer to avoid shipping *altogether*, but we'll see how that works out.
I don't notice anything odd about the media surface - it all looks to be in pretty good condition.
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Re: List of All Lisa Software
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2021, 02:35:34 pm »


@blusnowkitty - you may be interested to know that in the manual I received, a reference is made to the clipart being on "One 5 1/4-inch diskette or two 3 1/2-inch microdiskettes (Parts A and B)", so it does seem like this clipart package did make it onto the Lisa 2. The hunt continues...


Just found a copy of Art Department for the Lisa 2 over here as part of this package deal: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Lisa-2-10-w-keyboard-mouse-software-manuals-books-and-extras/393235786106

Seller won't split anything up unfortunately.
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Re: List of All Lisa Software
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2021, 10:14:08 pm »


Just found a copy of Art Department for the Lisa 2 over here as part of this package deal: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-Lisa-2-10-w-keyboard-mouse-software-manuals-books-and-extras/393235786106

Seller won't split anything up unfortunately.

That Lisa's a bit overpriced, but going by ebay prices a full set of the LOS manuals + disks is somewhere between $300-$500, but the disk folder's spine is ripped at the top and the labels are getting eaten off by the glue - not sure what the value of Art Department is. That older Owner's Guide is worth maybe $150.
Not sure about MacWorks, but it's not MacWorks II+ so not quite all that much. Maybe another $150?
Not sure how much the keyboard shortcuts are worth, though I don't see the full set in the photos, just one. There should be 3.
That's a Lisa 1 mouse, which is worth $500-$900 in ebay prices.
The good news is that this is a 2/10 so it won't have the leak issue, though I really question $3.5K for a dead Lisa. The odds of the Widget working are low.
The odds of the power supply being repairable by recapping is high, but still annoying.
The keyboard would be worth $200-$300 (if it was fully rebuilt with all the keys working.)
The missing apple logo on the faceplate is not great, would cost you $100-$200 for a new faceplate.
It's also missing the front feet, those could be replaced with non-authentic ones for a couple of bucks.
But who knows if something else is terribly wrong, like maybe the analog board.

So it's not a terrible deal, but it's certainly not a good one either. It might be worth buying, fixing, and reselling, but for $3.5K? That's a bit of a stretch there.
Yes, I see there's a crazy person who's listed a Lisa 2 for $9K. Not sure about the math on that one, but it's not from this reality.
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