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Quote from: fri0701 on December 03, 2022, 02:43:56 PM
With help from Tim Colegrove and his Lisa 1, we were able to finally dump my Twiggy disk of Art Department. I suspect the included files are the same as on the 3.5" Art Department disk images that showed up since my last post, but for the sake of completeness, I've added the image to my archive.org entry here if anyone is curious to try it out: https://archive.org/details/apple-lisa-art-department

Thank you for doing this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314303619003

I doubt anyone's got a spare $6000 laying around, but this 2/10 claims to have XENIX, Open Systems Accounting, and SMC Business BASIC installed. It at least has the Tecmar four-port serial card installed which lends credence to it being a UNIX box.

Has the 1984 Sales Marketing Binder on Bitsavers been updated? There's a bunch of new pages in the PDF now that I don't remember seeing when I first listed things in the spreadsheet. http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/apple/lisa/marketing/Lisa_Sales_Marketing_Binder_Feb84.pdf

My daily eBay searches for Lisa stuff turned up something interesting this morning.

I'm not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the Migration Kit (https://www.ebay.ca/itm/174950364302) by (I think) Sun Remarketing was some really interesting software that allowed users to convert their Lisa files into Macintosh files.

Quote from: bedroom on May 24, 2023, 07:57:45 PM
the Migration Kit .... was some really interesting software that allowed users to convert their Lisa files into Macintosh files.

The Macintosh Migration kit is available to download here:

http://www.macmothership.com/lisacontent/util_lisa.html

Quote from: blusnowkitty on May 21, 2023, 10:34:30 AM
My daily eBay searches for Lisa stuff turned up something interesting this morning.

I purchased this set of disks, and I'm (slowly) working on getting them archived. Follow the progress and see the intermediate results in the Files section: https://lisalist2.com/index.php/topic,412.0.html

Good to hear, hope we get something recovered.

A seller on ePay has some disks from the estate of Paul Barker.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/256204214388

Looks like a lot of master disks including ones for MacWorks and the workshop.

-J

I've been in touch with that seller, having acquired several Twiggy disks that he recently offered. He has several Paul Baker items that have not yet been listed, too.

Regarding these disks, I went through the Apple software that he's offering and haven't seen anything that's hard to find. The Workshop supplements, etc. are available in the Apple Technical Information Source CDs - which is actually why I posted that thread earlier today. What am I missing? What's special about the disks from the seller?

Just found out LisaMandelbrot exists. Maybe this should be added to the list!

Back in 1984, i visited the Flanders Technology exhibition (Belgium) experiencing the Apple Lisa and Radar CH (first version of ArchiCad) very promising.
I am a Archicad user since 1989, version 3

In 2003 I contacted Graphisoft, asking for a copy, but never got an answer.

GRAPHISOFT SE. Graphisoft Park 1, H-1031 Budapest, Hungary
https://graphisoft.com/


Radar CH   1984   Apple Lisa   Separate 2D and 3D module

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Getting-started/Archicad-versions/ta-p/304207

Quote from: applefreak on March 01, 2024, 03:55:51 AM
Back in 1984, i visited the Flanders Technology exhibition (Belgium) experiencing the Apple Lisa and Radar CH (first version of ArchiCad) very promising.

I'd love to get of a copy of this. Do you remember if they mentioned if the software was past the prototype stage on the Lisa?

Quote from: andrew on March 01, 2024, 12:34:46 PM
I'd love to get of a copy of this. Do you remember if they mentioned if the software was past the prototype stage on the Lisa?

You are not the only one

Radar CH is listed in the ArchiCAD versions, I don't think they are doing this with a prototype

I only ask because so far, after a little bit of digging, I've been unable to find any direct screenshots or more detailed information about it, although I found what appear to be screenshots and video of ArchiCAD v1.0 for the Mac. Hopefully this wasn't a case of them developing it for the Lisa originally, only to pivot to a Mac version when it was clear the Lisa's OS wasn't going to be widely supported in the future.

Video of ArchiCAD v1

There's also this manual for sale on ebay. I'd buy it but they don't ship to the US. Maybe this will have more information?

So a while ago I asked if anyone had a copy of Videx Desktop Calendar archived as it was posted to LisaList1 way back when and then lost. Bitsavers does have a copy of something called "DESKTOP CALENDAR 9/9" that I thought was Videx Desktop Calendar.

Not long after that question, I found an original copy of Videx Desktop Calendar on eBay for cheap, so I picked it up because I thought it'd be a cool trophy piece to have an original copy, even though we already have a good dump of the disk from someone else - or so I thought.

Tonight, I started reformatting my Lisa because the attendees at VCF absolutely trashed my X/Profile's filesystem. Whoops. While reloading software I thought "Hey, let's pop in this Videx disk just to make sure my Sony drive is still OK." Then I noticed the icons on the disk were completely different to the icons in the "DESKTOP CALENDAR 9/9" disk image - the icons are wayyyyy more detailed. (Calendar Comparison.png: DESKTOP CALENDAR 9/9 is the top set, Videx is the bottom set.)

So of course I had to immediately stop what I was doing and grabbed my BLU CF card and started to dump the disk... and now I think my Zilog SCC is dead. It'll receive bytes no problem, but only spews out garbage on the transmit side. Oh well, I have a 603e Mac clone running 8.6 that still works great, so I just dumped the disk there instead.

Unfortunately while it appears the disk dumped okay the software was copy protected and LisaEm with the special Serial FF00 set won't get past it. Someone can get past it I'm sure but it's late and I'm tired now. Attached is a copy of the disk image for someone to try and bust!

Here's an old ad for Videx Desktop Calendar on Applefritter. It seems the Videx calendar is way more feature-rich than DESKTOP CALENDAR 9/9 is. It's like your Outlook calendar, but in 1984... https://www.applefritter.com/content/videx-lisa-desktop-calendar-ad