Re: Lisa low-level hard disk formatting disk (was -- Re: Rotated Lisa Screen)

From: Shirl <shirlgato_at_email.domain.hidden>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:19:01 -0700

Hello Rudolf,

I looked at the disk image file which I said before looks like the LisaTest disk. I found the following message in the disk image which shows that this disk may also initialize the Lisa ProFile and Widget hard disks.

    Initializing the Profile/Widget with headers, wait!!!!

I checked LisaTest 3.0 and found it does not have the above message. I also saw that LisaTest 3.0 disks have volume name DIAG whereas your disk has volume name DEMT.

I also compared the catalogs from both disks and it seems that DEMT disk is the Lisa Monitor boot disk. The Monitor was the Lisa's first OS. I suspect you have a partial Monitor disk since it will not boot for you. If it did boot it seems you should be able to run various programs that are listed in the catalog. I suspect one of these programs allows you to format the Lisa ProFile or Widget hard disks with a low-level format due to the message above which talks about disk "headers".

>From: "Shirl" <shirlgato_at_email.domain.hidden>
>To: lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden
>Subject: Lisa low-level hard disk formatting disk (was -- Re: Rotated Lisa
>Date: Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 7:55 AM
> Hello Rudolf,
> I looked at the disk image you attached and this disk seems to be the Lisa
> Test disk. I don't think this has anything to do with hard disk formatting,
> at least this my take but I may be mistaken. Others with more knowledge in
> this area may reply with definitive answers.
> The disk is a Lisa Monitor disk which has lots of Lisa Test files.
> My understanding is there is a special formatting program for Lisa Widget
> hard disks that runs only on an Apple /// computer. I know for sure that was
> the case for the Apple ProFile hard disk and believe this is the same
> situation for the Widget drives.
> Also, a special controller board ROM may be needed for the Widget to support
> formatting. That is the case with the ProFile and I suspect Apple may have
> done the same wtih the Widget.
> Hope this helps.
> - David Craig
> ----------
>>From: "Rudolf Brandstötter" <R.Brandstoetter_at_email.domain.hidden>
>>To: lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden
>>Subject: Re: Rotated Lisa Screen
>>Date: Sun, Dec 21, 2008, 12:01 PM
>> NEWS from the hunt for the Low Level Format software.
>> Mr. Luzi sent me around 30 Lisa diskettes some days before; mostly LOS
>> disks and some other stuff. One diskette was mysterious to me; it has
>> written in german
>> "Lisa Burn In 2/10 - all disk data will be deleted!!!"
>> so this disk might be the holy grail. I put it in 2 of my Lisas and tried
>> to boot up.. it seems that something is found on the disk but the boot
>> screen stays white and nothing happens.. I made an image with Disk Copy 4.2
>> and added the image to this email... if you can not find it I can send it
>> with email. Please check what is the content of this disk?
>> There might be also some other disks that may contain this mysterious Low
>> Level Format software.. I'll keep on checking.
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>>> Datum: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:46:38 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Von: CallMeJack <callmejack2000_at_email.domain.hidden>
>>> An: LisaList <lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden>
>>> Betreff: Re: Rotated Lisa Screen
>>> Hello Alker,
>>> Any news from your negotiation with Mr. Luzi ? I live in Switzerland
>>> and if you need any help in order to contact him or get the disks if
>>> he does not want to ship them, let me know !
>>> Jack
>> >>

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