Re: Networking a Lisa

From: Philip Lord <philip_at_email.domain.hidden>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 00:15:35 +0900


Hi,
Unfortunately nothing happened.

I decided to reinstall OS 7 (downgrade from 7.0.1). I also installed the 'Tune Up' for System 7.

Upon restart I found I could now see the 'Start' file sharing button that was missing before. I pressed it and instantly got the message "A problem with your system was encountered. Please reinstall your system software". Strangely enough this was the messgae I previously got (and still get) with the old system when I pressed the "Start" program linking button...so I'm no closer to getting full networking to work.

So now I'm truly stumped.

Phil

On Feb 7, 2006, at 5:00 PM, macmoni wrote:

> Hi Phil,
>
> try, whether this routine accepts keyboard inputs?
> type in the 'owners name'
> ENTER
> type in the 'computer name'
> ENTER
> type in the password
> ENTER
>
>
> What happens now?
>
> TOM from a snowy Bavaria, the country of the marvellous castles of
> Koenig Ludwig, the Alps, the original Octoberfest in the center of
> Europe
>
>
> Am 07.02.2006 um 04:38 schrieb Philip Lord:
>
>> Ok,
>> Partial success!
>> I can now connect my Lisa running OS 6.0.8 and 7.0.1 to a
>> Powerbook 2400c running 8.6.
>> However I can not see the Lisa from the Powerbook side.
>>
>> On the lisa running 7.0.1 if I open the 'sharing' control panel, I
>> can enter in the 'owners name', the 'computer name' and the
>> password, but I can't see any button that says 'START' sharing???!!!
>> It's been a while since I have done file sharing in OS 7, but I
>> assumed there would be a 'START' button like in OS 9. Where has it
>> gone? Am I looking in the right place?
>>
>> As for OS6, last time I used sharing on this system was about 18
>> years ago, so I really have no idea how to start file sharing at
>> all under 6.
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Philip Lord wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks James,
>>> I will try to connect the Lisa to another mac with an older
>>> system. See if this helps.
>>>
>>> I have tried to see the Lisa from the Wallstreet side but nothing
>>> appears in the chooser. I will double check again that sharing on
>>> the Lisa side is on.
>>>
>>> Thanks again for the info, I will let you all know how I go.
>>>
>>> Phil
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:17 AM, James MacPhail wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I have a hacked (not by me) localtalk connector
>>>>>
>>>>> The lisa is running OS 6.0.8, and the Wallstreet is running 9.2.
>>>>>
>>>>> when using the chooser I can see the Wallstreet, I can even
>>>>> attempt to
>>>>> connect, and the Lisa displays a list of Wallstreet volumes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think this indicates you do have (more or less) appropriate
>>>> software
>>>> installed and your hacked localtalk connector is working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> However, when I try to fully connect, nothing happens!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Trying the same thing on the Lisa under OS 7.0.1 causes the
>>>>> system to
>>>>> crash with the error:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Sorry, a system error occurred. "Chooser" divide by zero"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have observed a similar issue with various computers running
>>>> system
>>>> software pre MacOS 8, including a MacPlus, and IIsi.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the reason is that Apple implemented a new "User
>>>> Authentication
>>>> Module" around the time of Mac OS 8 to improve security, and for
>>>> whatever
>>>> reason, it is not fully backwards-compatible (or perhaps you
>>>> need to find
>>>> just the right version of the AppleShare Workstation Software).
>>>>
>>>> Searching around on Apple's web site, I found various technotes
>>>> including
>>>> this one:
>>>>
>>>> <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30497>
>>>>
>>>> Which says, in part:
>>>>
>>>> "Computers that are running system software earlier than system
>>>> software
>>>> 7.5.1 should run AppleShare Workstation 3.5. Computers that are
>>>> running
>>>> system software 7.5.1 or later (up to but not including 7.5.3)
>>>> should run
>>>> AppleShare Workstation 3.6.5."
>>>>
>>>> Of course any particular version won't necessarily work on the
>>>> Lisa, but it
>>>> gives you a limit as to how new a version is worth trying.
>>>>
>>>> If you do find a particular combination of system software and
>>>> AppleShare
>>>> software that does allow you to mount a MacOS 9 volume on your
>>>> Lisa, please
>>>> let us know!
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> I find that the newer system versions can mount volumes shared
>>>> by the older
>>>> versions. ie. if you run System 7.x on your Lisa, and turn on
>>>> file sharing,
>>>> you may be able to mount it on the Wallstreet.
>>>>
>>>> Alternately, I use an older computer running System 7.5.5 as a
>>>> file server.
>>>> I then mount a volume from this on both older and newer
>>>> computers, and use
>>>> it to transfer files between them. Since I change configurations
>>>> often, I
>>>> find the extra hop is less trouble than fiddling with file
>>>> sharing in each
>>>> new configuration.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> James
>>>>
>>>> James MacPhail "Think not of engineering as art,
>>>> uo957_at_email.domain.hidden but of art as engineering"
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>>>>
>>>>
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