Re: Hello all!

Marshall H.
Fairfax, VA

Hatle, Steven J. wrote:

>Anthony,
>
>Just about any 400K Mac floppy should be interchangeable with drives in the
>Lisa.
>
>There were some 800K disk drive ROMs that you could use with MacWorks to
>give 800K support- you might have one of those. It would be on the I/0
>board. If you need to know where and how it's marked, I can take a look at
>mine- I have one on one of my spare I/O boards.
>
>IIRC, I don't think the 800K drives made their appearance until the Mac
>Plus, so if you can find a 512 you can scavenge the drive out of that.
>
>A big difference between MacXL and a "real" Lisa was ROM versions. It's
>been a while, so forgive me if I'm wrong here, but most XL Lisa's have HA/88
>ROMs- this appears in the upper right hand corner of the screen when the
>machine is coming up. You need to have an older version, which I can't
>remember right now. Now I have an excuse to fire up one of the old girls!
><grin>.
>
>Also, a lot of XL's had a screen conversion kit added, which consists of
>some different chips on the CPU board, and a doodad that plugs into the
>video board near the neck of the CRT. Look in from the top down, and if you
>see the doodad stuck to the side of the compartment with double-sided tape,
>and connectors that bridge it into the video board, then you have the screen
>kit installed. This changed the pixel shape from the rectangular Lisa pixels
>to square "Mac" pixels. You definitely can't run 7/7 with a screen mod
>installed.
>
>A good reference is Larry Pina's "Macintosh Repair and Upgrade Secrets", if
>you can find it. It has a chapter on Lisa and how to identify and get them
>back to original shape. Unfortunately, the bits 'n pieces to do this are
>hard to find- not like a lot of Lisa ROM sets are hanging around, though
>they shouldn't be to hard to burn if you had a master set and the gear.
>
>If you need more specifics, let me know and I can dig out my stuff and
>refresh my failing memory.
>
>Oh- and if anyone knows where I can find a working Widget, please pass it
>along! <grin>
>
>Steve
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Anthony G Beckett [mailto:anthony.beckett_at_email.domain.hidden]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:56 AM
>To: lisalist_at_email.domain.hidden
>Subject: Hello all!
>
>
>Hi all!
>
>I just signed up to the list, and I am hoping that you guys can help me with
>my Lisas!
>
>I have two Lisa 2's - one works great, one has a blown tube and power
>supply. What I would like to know is - is there any technological difference
>between the Lisa 2 and the Mac XL - that is, besides the software?
>
>The reason I ask is, both hard disks in the Lisa's have MacWorks installed -
>and I would rather run LisaOffice. I have downloaded the Operating Systems,
>transferred them to 400k install disks using DiskCopy 4.2 on a Mac and I
>here is where I am stuck.
>
>Watching the Lisa attempt to load them was not a pretty site - for starters,
>one of the disk drive occasionally spins. Not good.. The other does not like
>to load and eject properly. Half way inserting a disk causes the mechanism
>to drop. If you hold the mechanism up, push the disk in, then let it drop,
>it flicks the head up and down the disk and returns a five digit error code
>with a picture of the lisa and a cross through it (10xxx - xxx might have
>been 571, cant remember )
>
>I think my floppy drives are cactus - however, the mechanisms do not seem
>that common - the oldest macs I have are Mac 512's, and they look similar to
>the newer Mac Plus drives. When connected to a Lisa, their reaction could
>only be described as "bezerk". Constant ejecting.
>
>So - where or what machine can I butcher to rescue my Lisa from System 6?
>
>I apologise if this email seems disjointed.
>
>Thanks in advance ladies & gentleman!
>
>Regards;
>
>Anthony G Beckett
>http://www.unnamedpcmuseum.com
>Regards;
>
>Anthony G Beckett
>http://www.unnamedpcmuseum.com
>
>

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