Re: Networking a Lisa

From: Philip Lord <philip_at_email.domain.hidden>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:38:32 +0900


Ok,
Partial success!
I can now connect my Lisa running OS 6.0.8 and 7.0.1 to a Powerbook 2400c running 8.6.
However I can not see the Lisa from the Powerbook side.

On the lisa running 7.0.1 if I open the 'sharing' control panel, I can enter in the 'owners name', the 'computer name' and the password, but I can't see any button that says 'START' sharing???!!! It's been a while since I have done file sharing in OS 7, but I assumed there would be a 'START' button like in OS 9. Where has it gone? Am I looking in the right place?

As for OS6, last time I used sharing on this system was about 18 years ago, so I really have no idea how to start file sharing at all under 6.

Phil

On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:08 PM, Philip Lord wrote:

> Thanks James,
> I will try to connect the Lisa to another mac with an older system.
> See if this helps.
>
> I have tried to see the Lisa from the Wallstreet side but nothing
> appears in the chooser. I will double check again that sharing on
> the Lisa side is on.
>
> Thanks again for the info, I will let you all know how I go.
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2006, at 8:17 AM, James MacPhail wrote:
>
>>> I have a hacked (not by me) localtalk connector
>>>
>>> The lisa is running OS 6.0.8, and the Wallstreet is running 9.2.
>>>
>>> when using the chooser I can see the Wallstreet, I can even
>>> attempt to
>>> connect, and the Lisa displays a list of Wallstreet volumes.
>>
>>
>> I think this indicates you do have (more or less) appropriate
>> software
>> installed and your hacked localtalk connector is working.
>>
>>
>>> However, when I try to fully connect, nothing happens!!!
>>>
>>> Trying the same thing on the Lisa under OS 7.0.1 causes the
>>> system to
>>> crash with the error:
>>>
>>> "Sorry, a system error occurred. "Chooser" divide by zero"
>>
>>
>> I have observed a similar issue with various computers running system
>> software pre MacOS 8, including a MacPlus, and IIsi.
>>
>> I believe the reason is that Apple implemented a new "User
>> Authentication
>> Module" around the time of Mac OS 8 to improve security, and for
>> whatever
>> reason, it is not fully backwards-compatible (or perhaps you need
>> to find
>> just the right version of the AppleShare Workstation Software).
>>
>> Searching around on Apple's web site, I found various technotes
>> including
>> this one:
>>
>> <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=30497>
>>
>> Which says, in part:
>>
>> "Computers that are running system software earlier than system
>> software
>> 7.5.1 should run AppleShare Workstation 3.5. Computers that are
>> running
>> system software 7.5.1 or later (up to but not including 7.5.3)
>> should run
>> AppleShare Workstation 3.6.5."
>>
>> Of course any particular version won't necessarily work on the
>> Lisa, but it
>> gives you a limit as to how new a version is worth trying.
>>
>> If you do find a particular combination of system software and
>> AppleShare
>> software that does allow you to mount a MacOS 9 volume on your
>> Lisa, please
>> let us know!
>>
>> Suggestions:
>>
>> I find that the newer system versions can mount volumes shared by
>> the older
>> versions. ie. if you run System 7.x on your Lisa, and turn on file
>> sharing,
>> you may be able to mount it on the Wallstreet.
>>
>> Alternately, I use an older computer running System 7.5.5 as a
>> file server.
>> I then mount a volume from this on both older and newer computers,
>> and use
>> it to transfer files between them. Since I change configurations
>> often, I
>> find the extra hop is less trouble than fiddling with file sharing
>> in each
>> new configuration.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> James
>>
>> James MacPhail "Think not of engineering as art,
>> uo957_at_email.domain.hidden but of art as engineering"
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>>
>>
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